I don't have this set, but I have seen some similar things on other
LTI/Flyer.

Out of curiosity I was wondering what type of track you were running your
NYC PA units on...If it is S-helper track you will need to regauge the
trucks. At least that has been my experience with all LTI/Flyer stuff on
S-helper.

The contact shoes need to be tweaked so that they will not run off the top
of the rail of the thinner S-helper rail. (the regauging of the wheels wider
may be enough to stop this little problem)

If you want to get them to negotiate S-helper turnouts you need to do some
other things.

Also, I have fixed the rocking in this manner. The trucks are retained to
the frame by insulating washers and a "c" clip retainer. (simiar to old
flyer, but the tolerences were not held)

The groove on the shaft is located far enough away that there is a lot of
end play and rocking. I have some 20mm O.D. x 1mm thick washers that were
about the right I.D. for the truck pivot shafts and I put them between the
ring and the fiber washer and that made the mounting much more firm and my
rocking was significantly reduced. (this really isn't a permanent mod. as
you can remove the washers)

It is a shame that these kind of things are necessary. I didn't buy this new
passenger set, so I didn't realize the trucks were plastic. That really
stinks.....


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Inscho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Alan C Udy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [S-Trains] Lionel AF NYC Passenger Cars


> I bought one of these poor excuses for a train also, & while the paint &
> lettering are good , the trucks are as you pointed out not what they said
> they would be. also did you or anyone else noticed how loose & xtra high
the
> trucks on the engs.are? Mine are so loose that the engine rocks & the
trucks
> will derail easily. All I can say is good bye to Lionel as they have done
it
> to Me for the last time.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan C Udy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 10:51 AM
> Subject: [S-Trains] Lionel AF NYC Passenger Cars
>
>
> According to their web site, the New York Central diner/coach combo have
> shipped.  Has anyone seen them?  And, do they have die cast metal sprung
> trucks as advertised (the passenger cars in the set have plastic sided
> trucks with no springs).
>
> Alan Udy, RMHRS
> Idaho Falls
>
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