2009/11/17 Nicolas M. Thiery <nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr>: > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 07:36:58AM -0800, William Stein wrote: >> I think it is ridiculous to have doctests of the form >> >> sage:sga = SymmetricGroup(3) >> sage: TestSuite(sga).run(verbose=True) >> running ._test_an_element() .. done >> running ._test_associativity() .. done >> running ._test_element_pickling() .. done >> running ._test_inverse() .. done >> running ._test_len() .. done >> running ._test_not_implemented_methods() .. done >> running ._test_one() .. done >> running ._test_pickling() .. done >> running ._test_prod() .. done >> running ._test_some_elements() .. done >> >> Doctests are meant to be *read* by people, and to be guaranteed right. > > Yes. That's the point. I *want* those doctests to be read. This gives > useful feedback on what is being tested. Also this advertises features > of the categories which are otherwise a bit hidden in the > introspection (since we decided to name the test methods _test...).
OK, that makes sense. > > And, well, those tests are correct in that they check that at least > those tests are run :-) Sure, 100% correctness is better. > >> I think that is bad, since it is explicitly and on purposely tricking >> the reader. Please don't do that. > > As I said, if someone takes on the promise of updating the category > examples (which I care much about), I am very fine with it. > >> > Finally, there is an (undocumented) option so sage -t that makes it >> > output a patch which updates all the doctest results according so >> > Sage's output. Mike: I did not find it back; can you remind me what >> > that option is? I promise I'll add it to sage -h :-) >> >> Note that it only halfway works too. > > Yeah, but occasionally enormously useful. So I think it should be > advertised, at least in sage -advanced, if not just so that I don't > ask Mike about it a third time. I'll post a patch to trac. Also, it could *easily* be fixed so that it 100% works. I just never got to that. Somebody could easily make it 100%. William --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-combinat-devel" group. To post to this group, send email to sage-combinat-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-combinat-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-combinat-devel?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
