On 12/12/06, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Speaking from ignorance, I'm not enthusiastic about a java requirement > but can be convinced otherwise. > (1) Can we realy distribute it now (since it is not yet GPL'd)?
We can't distribute java. However, we can distribute java applets, because we wrote the code, and thus own the copyright over it. They just won't be able to run without the (as of yet) non-GPL'ed virtual machine. > (2) is it really fast? I have found that java is annoyingly slow. Java has really slow startup time, which is really noticeable when it halts Firefox. But you can expect applets to run prettty fast, once they're running. Java in browsers *seriously* annoys me as well. In fact, it sort of makes me cringe to think about Java applets in SAGE, as I *hate* sites that have Java applets. On the other hand, I don't know if there's much of an alternative. > In fact, I usually block java (for security reasons, among others) > on my browsers. > (3) Is it really cross-platform? From Debian to FreeBSD to Mac OSX > to windows? Relatively. As long as those systems have VMs written for them. They all have (non-open source) VMs/bytecode compilers written for them. I think we can expect everything about Java to improve dramatically as Sun releases these under the GPL > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > William Stein wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:50:15 -0800, Robert Bradshaw > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> I've been looking into the java3d api stuff. ( https:// > >> java3d.dev.java.net/ )It has about every feature you can imagine and is > >> very fast (especially if you have OpenGL on your machine). There is only > >> one problem--it is an optional package. In fact, most people who have > >> java won't even have it installed. I think requiring users to install it > >> is not only a hassle but also one benefit of the notebook is that we > >> make no assumptions other than a relatively modern browser. Is this too > >> much of an obstacle? > >> > > > > I don't know. I'd like to get feedback from more people. Already > > requiring > > JAVA is an obstacle, but it's a reasonable one. What does sage-devel > > think? > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Bobby Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
