Well, yes I most definitely would, since I don't always have my Laptop with me and also work on non-Unix machines (unfortunatly). So I think its feasible to have a "live"-option around. But maybe the effort to create one should just be postponed? Now there's another thing which comes to my mind: Wouldn't it be easiest if a live-distro included Sage? I just read Michael Abshoff's Blog post, and he writes that Pardus or Debian might include Sage! Wouldn't that just solve the problem?
On Jan 4, 2008 10:43 AM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 3, 2008 1:46 AM, Fabio Tonti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's a very good idea for demonstrations... Imagine having sage on a > > USB-drive an booting it directly!!!! > > Would _you_ actually use it. So far in this thread only one > person -- Tim Daly -- has said they would actually use a live > CD of Sage. Actually, he only said he would "use a live cd", > but he didn't specifically say he would use a live cd of Sage. > > -- William > > > > > > > On Jan 2, 2008 8:04 PM, TimDaly < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I'd use a live cd. they are much more convenient to show off > > > at conferences. > > > > > > > > > On Jan 2, 1:37 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Dec 29, 2007 1:21 PM, mabshoff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 29, 8:56 pm, "Alfredo Portes" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 29, 2007 3:34 AM, mabshoff > > > > > > > > > > < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Since Sage is effectively (or, rather much more effectively) > > > using > > > > > > > > the same strategy of making all of the systems available I > > thought > > > > > > > > it might be worthwhile to update the document with Sage > > information. > > > > > > > > You might consider making a Live CD of Sage. Doyen contains > > instructions > > > > > > > > and Alfredo Portes does excellent work. He has carefully > > documented > > > > > > > > the build process. > > > > > > > > > > > We used to have a live CD version, but the effort faltered, > too. > > It > > > > > > > might be worth a try to recruit somebody around here who would > > > like to > > > > > > > do that job. I looked at the Doyen project on sf.net and I > > couldn't > > > > > > > find any files, except a bunch of Axiom files and art work in > SVN. > > I > > > > > > > guess > > > > > > > > > > > http://daly.axiom-developer.org/doyen/ > > > > > > > > > > > would be a better source of information ;) > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > Given that I was involved in the effort for a live cd for Sage, > I > > would like > > > > > > to say something about it. > > > > > > > > > > I did make a livecd (graphical for sage), but I did not feel in > the > > list > > > > > > any interest in it. I sent an email and there was no answer. I > still > > think > > > > > > Tim's idea for Doyen is great, and currently there are more > tools to > > create > > > > > > live cds than when he started the project. > > > > > > > > > > I consider the iso to be more versatile than the current Sage > vmare > > image, > > > > > > because the iso can also be used inside the vmware > > > > > > > > It may be more versatile, but it is substantially more complicated > to > > > > actually use, > > > > especially because of maintaining the state of the Sage notebook > server > > (which > > > > means one must setup a vmware machine with another image for Sage, > setup > > > > Sage in the iso to somehow automatically use it, etc.). More > versatile > > can be > > > > more complicated, hence worse for most users. > > > > > > > > > or be burned and boot > > > > > > with it if the user does not have such a program or do not want > to > > install it. > > > > > > > > > Sure. > > > > > > > > > > Doyen and Sage livecd have been dormant for a while now, but I > > surely offer > > > > > > my help to do this if there is any interest in it. > > > > > > > > > I assume the interest is there. > > > > > > > > Why do you assume that? Is there really interest? Alfredo has a > very > > good > > > > point about that lack of interest last year when he posted the > image... > > > > Do people really use Live CD's much / at all? I don't. > > > > > > > > I'm definitely not trying to discourage anyone unduly, but it would > be a > > good > > > > idea to answer the above questions, especially when you're > suggesting: > > > > > > > > > What ought to be done is to integrate > > > > > the build of the iso into the release process, preferably it ought > to > > > > > be created locally on sagemath.org or sage.math. So, what needs to > > > > > happen to make this possible? > > > > > > > > Anything that makes the build / release of Sage more complicated, > i.e., > > > > makes my life more complicated (or that of any release maintainer) > > > > better have a solid justification. At a minimum, we shouldn't > start > > > > building live cd's for Sage if at least 5 people haven't yet > requested > > > > them. Sorry if I sound at all negative. And if five people > reading > > this > > > > would actually download and use an ISO for a LiveCD of Sage, > > > > please just respond to this thread. > > > > > > > > If there is real demand, I will be an incredibly strong proponent > > > > of a Sage LiveCD. > > > > > > > > -- William > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > William Stein > Associate Professor of Mathematics > University of Washington > http://wstein.org > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
