On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:00 PM E. Madison Bray <erik.m.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:33 PM tobia...@gmx.de <tobiasd...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > > > For what's worth, + 1 for migrating to github. > > > > The interface is cleaner, it has many more features and integrations, and > > is more active which could attract more contributions. There are a few > > scripts/tools that allow to migrate from trac to github. But most of them > > are unmaintained for a few years already, so I'm not sure if they still > > work (which should be taken as a sign that one should migrate sooner than > > later). > > In 2019 Julian Rüth and I, with the help of some others, already put > in some effort to set up an organization for SageMath on GitLab: > https://gitlab.com/sagemath > > Between GitHub and GitLab, we felt that the latter would be more > acceptable to the broader Sage community. We also implemented a bot > that can mirror GitLab merge requests as Trac tickets, though it's > been in need of troubleshooting for a while. > > This was also done before the advent of GitHub Actions, and the > ability to provide custom CI runners for GitLab Pipelines seemed > advantageous, since we could maintain our own fleet of runners, be it > on Sage developers' personal machines (if they are generous enough to > host them) or any conceivable constellation of cloud computing > platforms. > > In practice this has gained little traction, in part due to lack of > advertising. The GitLab Runner solution also proved a bit troublesome > to maintain, as it required some constant attention to make sure there > were always working runners available. I tried to keep that up for a > while myself, but have had other obligations.
I think it should be mentioned that GitLab has an analog of GitHub Actions, and the difference is that its runners may be self-hosted, or provided by GitLab. E.g. see https://gitlab.com/sagemath/dev/trac/-/pipelines/266731297 > > In the meantime Matthias and others have been doing really interesting > things with GitHub Actions for our CI. For the time being GitHub is > being *very* generous with computing time available to open source > projects. Though I fear it's only a matter of time before Microsoft's > investors come banging on the door, and they start putting in bigger > limits for free users (as happened with Travis CI). > > I would still prefer the GitLab approach for a myriad of reasons, or a > hybrid approach at least for the GitHub Actions stuff. It just needs > to be better advertised, and there needs to be better instructions for > where users and potential developers should go to open issues. > > As for the wiki I've always been in favor of dropping Moin Wiki and > migrating the existing wiki pages to Trac (or to GitLab). Someone > just has to do it, as is always the problem. > > > > On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 9:50:49 PM UTC+1 David Roe wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 3:49 PM Isuru Fernando <isu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> It should be sagemath.zulipchat.com right? (Instead of .org) > >> > >> > >> Yes, sorry for the typo! > >> David > >> > >>> > >>> Isuru > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:47 PM David Roe <roed...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 3:30 PM Harald Schilly <har...@schil.ly> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 9:23 PM Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > Harald - can you take care of this? > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> Uhm, what's happening? Could someone please summarize this for me? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> zulip.sagemath.org used to point to a google virtual machine. We'd like > >>>> it to redirect to sagemath.zulipchat.org so that people looking for the > >>>> Zulip server are sent to the right place. > >>>> David > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "sage-devel" group. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>>> an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAGG4CB5oiSVA3W3AJWfosLuMuzEKPaoHZ_DWNS58H%3DFgast98w%40mail.gmail.com. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "sage-devel" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>> an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAChs6_mN8PRRt2Ot7YcHqcZGLXPoPcVS0_R_QdjCVYpZHpi5Ng%40mail.gmail.com. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "sage-devel" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >>> email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > >>> > >>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CA%2B01voOy5SXXkyQeqMB-AxeGMXEv5MN%2Bj3FBdYB1DihHHh0inQ%40mail.gmail.com. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "sage-devel" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/e2c237d2-b8aa-4002-8fb4-edeaf03a8d3fn%40googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sage-devel/ayOL8_bzOfk/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAOTD34bSQLz-JBbc5P9WOHYxFUFdLt20A24yTQ48ySfaOiL2jQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq385ckUA%3D9hppHWC%3D63zQo0n%3Dh_nBhsZ4KuoQeXHJe7bQ%40mail.gmail.com.
