On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 10:11 AM Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 4:00 PM E. Madison Bray <erik.m.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:33 PM tobia...@gmx.de <tobiasd...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > For what's worth, + 1 for migrating to github. > > > > > > The interface is cleaner, it has many more features and integrations, and > > > is more active which could attract more contributions. There are a few > > > scripts/tools that allow to migrate from trac to github. But most of them > > > are unmaintained for a few years already, so I'm not sure if they still > > > work (which should be taken as a sign that one should migrate sooner than > > > later). > > > > In 2019 Julian Rüth and I, with the help of some others, already put > > in some effort to set up an organization for SageMath on GitLab: > > https://gitlab.com/sagemath > > > > Between GitHub and GitLab, we felt that the latter would be more > > acceptable to the broader Sage community. We also implemented a bot > > that can mirror GitLab merge requests as Trac tickets, though it's > > been in need of troubleshooting for a while. > > > > This was also done before the advent of GitHub Actions, and the > > ability to provide custom CI runners for GitLab Pipelines seemed > > advantageous, since we could maintain our own fleet of runners, be it > > on Sage developers' personal machines (if they are generous enough to > > host them) or any conceivable constellation of cloud computing > > platforms. > > > > In practice this has gained little traction, in part due to lack of > > advertising. The GitLab Runner solution also proved a bit troublesome > > to maintain, as it required some constant attention to make sure there > > were always working runners available. I tried to keep that up for a > > while myself, but have had other obligations. > > I think it should be mentioned that GitLab has an analog of GitHub Actions, > and the difference is that its runners may be self-hosted, or provided > by GitLab. > E.g. see https://gitlab.com/sagemath/dev/trac/-/pipelines/266731297
I just tried to switch to a "community" runner, and got an error which is probably obvious to people versed in Docker: https://gitlab.com/sagemath/dev/trac/-/jobs/1089520433 > > > > > > In the meantime Matthias and others have been doing really interesting > > things with GitHub Actions for our CI. For the time being GitHub is > > being *very* generous with computing time available to open source > > projects. Though I fear it's only a matter of time before Microsoft's > > investors come banging on the door, and they start putting in bigger > > limits for free users (as happened with Travis CI). > > > > I would still prefer the GitLab approach for a myriad of reasons, or a > > hybrid approach at least for the GitHub Actions stuff. It just needs > > to be better advertised, and there needs to be better instructions for > > where users and potential developers should go to open issues. > > > > As for the wiki I've always been in favor of dropping Moin Wiki and > > migrating the existing wiki pages to Trac (or to GitLab). Someone > > just has to do it, as is always the problem. > > > > > > > On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 9:50:49 PM UTC+1 David Roe wrote: > > >> > > >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 3:49 PM Isuru Fernando <isu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> It should be sagemath.zulipchat.com right? (Instead of .org) > > >> > > >> > > >> Yes, sorry for the typo! > > >> David > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Isuru > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:47 PM David Roe <roed...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 3:30 PM Harald Schilly <har...@schil.ly> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 9:23 PM Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > Harald - can you take care of this? > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Uhm, what's happening? Could someone please summarize this for me? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> zulip.sagemath.org used to point to a google virtual machine. We'd > > >>>> like it to redirect to sagemath.zulipchat.org so that people looking > > >>>> for the Zulip server are sent to the right place. > > >>>> David > > >>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>>>> Groups "sage-devel" group. > > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > >>>>> send an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > > >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit > > >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAGG4CB5oiSVA3W3AJWfosLuMuzEKPaoHZ_DWNS58H%3DFgast98w%40mail.gmail.com. > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>>> Groups "sage-devel" group. > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > >>>> an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > > >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit > > >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAChs6_mN8PRRt2Ot7YcHqcZGLXPoPcVS0_R_QdjCVYpZHpi5Ng%40mail.gmail.com. > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>> Groups "sage-devel" group. > > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > >>> an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. > > >>> > > >>> To view this discussion on the web visit > > >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CA%2B01voOy5SXXkyQeqMB-AxeGMXEv5MN%2Bj3FBdYB1DihHHh0inQ%40mail.gmail.com. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "sage-devel" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/e2c237d2-b8aa-4002-8fb4-edeaf03a8d3fn%40googlegroups.com. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > > Google Groups "sage-devel" group. > > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/sage-devel/ayOL8_bzOfk/unsubscribe. > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > > sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAOTD34bSQLz-JBbc5P9WOHYxFUFdLt20A24yTQ48ySfaOiL2jQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq1RV5bEmq3N_FP-5Eq%3D05d7%2BegZZ6yqp9%2Bs-B0Wbb9y-A%40mail.gmail.com.
