On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, 20:39 Matthias Koeppe, <matthiaskoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:22 PM Marc Culler <marc....@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:58 AM Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I imagine it might be an artifact of the design of Sage on Mac app > >> Marc is releasing: > >> vendor everything. > > > > Vendor is a noun, not a verb. > > It's a curse, to be precise, and it slows down the project a lot. > We have to worry about over 400 packages!!! > Bloody hell, pardon my UK French, we have more interesting problems to > work on... > > > FWIW, I consider Marc's effort to provide a self-contained macOS app of > Sage to be very valuable for the project. > > Dima is indeed using the word "vendor" incorrectly. I'm not concerned > about the grammar; I use it as a verb, too, in this specific context. > For source code, "vendoring" (= including a copy of the source code of a > dependency, modified or not, in the source code) is problematic for various > well known reasons. > But to accuse a binary distribution of "vendoring" is simply meaningless. > A binary distribution is made for the benefit of users. > I am not accusing Marc of vendoring, I am saying that him asking to supply essentially all the components of Sage in source form is asking too much, as it saddles us with extremely heavy maintenance task, for reasons questionable. Suppose we remove gmp from the list of packages we vendor (yes, "to vendor", i.e. "to perform vendoring", may be a verb, as we see here. As Americans make verbs out of everything, I find myself being gaslighted here by one of them.) What then, will it make the task of making a macOS Sage app impossible, or much harder, all of a sudden? I have trouble believing this. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/fa119cf9-49bc-4b16-b6af-b1b6fd6584aen%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/fa119cf9-49bc-4b16-b6af-b1b6fd6584aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq3zx9DeBB5%3DvsO1%2BDC7UHugKyykaVUOC4Z1-tD3xfKDtQ%40mail.gmail.com.
