I have not invented the verb "to vendor", I merely picked it up from Python docs and PEPs, e.g. https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0518/#configparser (this one was written by native English speakers, I think)
You seem to prefer to pick on my supposedly broken English, rather than read Python docs, as it's much less fun. Get a life. On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, 23:19 John H Palmieri, <jhpalmier...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not all Americans like to verb things so profligately. > > On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:15:07 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, 20:39 Matthias Koeppe, <matthia...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:22 PM Marc Culler <marc....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:58 AM Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> I imagine it might be an artifact of the design of Sage on Mac app >>> >> Marc is releasing: >>> >> vendor everything. >>> > >>> > Vendor is a noun, not a verb. >>> >>> It's a curse, to be precise, and it slows down the project a lot. >>> We have to worry about over 400 packages!!! >>> Bloody hell, pardon my UK French, we have more interesting problems to >>> work on... >>> >>> >>> FWIW, I consider Marc's effort to provide a self-contained macOS app of >>> Sage to be very valuable for the project. >>> >>> Dima is indeed using the word "vendor" incorrectly. I'm not concerned >>> about the grammar; I use it as a verb, too, in this specific context. >>> For source code, "vendoring" (= including a copy of the source code of a >>> dependency, modified or not, in the source code) is problematic for various >>> well known reasons. >>> But to accuse a binary distribution of "vendoring" is simply >>> meaningless. A binary distribution is made for the benefit of users. >>> >> >> I am not accusing Marc of vendoring, I am saying that him asking to >> supply essentially all the components of Sage in source form is asking too >> much, as it saddles us with extremely heavy maintenance task, for reasons >> questionable. >> >> Suppose we remove gmp from the list of packages we vendor (yes, "to >> vendor", i.e. "to perform vendoring", may be a verb, as we see here. As >> Americans make verbs out of everything, I find myself being gaslighted here >> by one of them.) >> >> What then, will it make the task of making a macOS Sage app impossible, >> or much harder, all of a sudden? >> I have trouble believing this. >> >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "sage-devel" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/fa119cf9-49bc-4b16-b6af-b1b6fd6584aen%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/fa119cf9-49bc-4b16-b6af-b1b6fd6584aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/943e37ef-0a11-4331-9e20-52141ccdddc7n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/943e37ef-0a11-4331-9e20-52141ccdddc7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/CAAWYfq0PMxGug%3Dwv1FRMZjbeGW1UdU5jPB57Z-k7CatETAuemg%40mail.gmail.com.
