I did some computations using von Staudt's theorem and up to 400000 no
errors. Of course that doesn't prove anything for much larger n.

Bill.

On 2 May, 21:04, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  On May 2, 2008, at 3:45 PM, William Stein wrote:
>
> >  > The complexity mostly depends on the precision one uses in
> >  > computing a certain Euler product approximation to zeta
> >  > and also the number of factors in the product.  If you look
> >  > at the PARI source code the comments do *not* inspire confidence in
> >  > its correctness.  I had a student give a provable bound on precision
> >  > and number of factors needed and wasn't able to get anything
> >  > as good as what PARI uses.
>
> >  > Here's the funny part of the PARI code (in trans3.c):
>
> >  >   /* 1.712086 = ??? */
> >  >   t = log( gtodouble(d) ) + (n + 0.5) * log(n) - n*(1+log2PI) +
> >  > 1.712086;
>
> >  One way to check it is to use the bernoulli_mod_p_single() function,
> >  which computes B_k mod p for a single p and k, and uses a completely
> >  independent algorithm.
>
> >  sage: x = bernoulli(240000)
>
> >  sage: p = next_prime(500000)
> >  sage: bernoulli_mod_p_single(p, 240000)
> >  498812
> >  sage: x % p
> >  498812
>
> >  sage: p = next_prime(10^6)
> >  sage: bernoulli_mod_p_single(p, 240000)
> >  841174
> >  sage: x % p
> >  841174
>
> >  So I would say the answer is correct.
>
> >  david
>
> I've done numerous similar tests, and
> I definitely don't think PARI is giving wrong answers.
> The issue is just that I've written a paper to generalize
> the algorithm to generalized Bernoulli numbers, and was
> very annoyed that I couldn't prove that even the algorithm
> used by PARI worked.
>
>  -- William
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