It seems that #sage is already registered, though nobody has said
anything there since July of this year. I talked to the owner of the
channel - he is a member of the USENIX Special Interest Group for
Sysadmins ( http://sage.org/ ) and says that other users of that
organization sometimes use #sage as a meeting place. According to
http://sage.org/about/irc.html , though, their official IRC channel is
#sage-members on freenode. On the other hand, #sage-members has not
been spoken in since 2008. The owner of #sage said that he does not
represent sage.org, however. Perhaps someone more representative of
our sage than am I can work out the negotiations over naming...
-Keshav
On Dec 14, 9:03 pm, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi William,
> could you perhaps take care of this?
>
> On Dec 14, 5:43 pm, Keshav Kini <keshav.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > After some consultation with a freenode oper, it seems that there is a
> > rather humongous backlog of group registration forms that have been
> > filled and are waiting for processing ("thousands"), but if a software
> > project needs their group registration processed in order to regain
> > control of a channel, the registration request can be prioritized
> > (http://blog.freenode.net/2010/06/group-registration-form-verifications/
> > ).
>
> > -Keshav
>
> > On Dec 14, 5:30 pm, Keshav Kini <keshav.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > There's actually a freenode policy which recommends against using
> > > "primary channels" (ones that start with # and not ##) unless they're
> > > associated with a "primary group", which is basically a software
> > > project registered with freenode and with known contact persons. Has
> > > anyone tried applying for "sage"? It is not currently taken
> > > (seehttp://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml), and someone who registers
> > > the primary group "sage" would then have control over any channel of
> > > the form "#sage-*", which at this point would include #sage-devel and
> > > #sage-support. (This also means that if someone else does it first, we
> > > could get kicked out...) Another perk of group registration is that we
> > > would be able to give people sage cloaks (so that their hostmask would
> > > display as, say, usern...@sage/username rather than
> > > usern...@host.mask ). Maybe we could match these with trac accounts,
> > > or something.
>
> > > The group registration page is
> > > athttp://freenode.net/group_registration_form.php
> > > . More details about the process can be found
> > > athttp://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml
> > > . I would do this myself, but only a primary spokesperson for the
> > > project is supposed to submit a request, and I obviously don't fit
> > > that criterion! :)
>
> > > -Keshav
>
> > > On Dec 14, 5:04 pm, leif <not.rea...@online.de> wrote:
>
> > > > On 14 Dez., 08:09, Keshav Kini <keshav.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > The #sage-devel IRC channel is not currently registered in anyone's
> > > > > name on the freenode network (was it ever?), which means that nobody
> > > > > can obtain operator privileges in it unless everyone leaves, the
> > > > > channel thus gets purged, and then someone joins it to "found" it
> > > > > again.
>
> > > > > Could some maintainer of this mailing list perhaps take the issue up
> > > > > with the freenode staff? As far as I am aware, they will often help
> > > > > you to reclaim an ownerless channel by registering it in your name if
> > > > > you can provide good reasons why you deserve to own it.
>
> > > > > I mention this because the channel topic currently reads "stable:
> > > > > 4.3.1 | dev: 4.3.2.alpha1", which is rather outdated, and to change
> > > > > the topic one needs operator privileges. At least one visitor to the
> > > > > channel has been confused by this outdated topic and was trying
> > > > > install 4.3.1, so I figured it might be a good idea to bring this up.
>
> > > > Sad enough, a known issue (since February).
>
> > > > Some people have written to freenode multiple times, no response /
> > > > progress so far AFAIK.
>
> > > > -Leif
>
> > > > P.S.: There's an alternate channel (#sagemath) owned by Harald Schilly
> > > > and Dan Drake, but few people use it... (and it seems even less want
> > > > to leave #sage-devel ;-) ).
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