On 20 October 2013 03:17, William Stein <wst...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 7:07 PM, kcrisman <kcris...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> On Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:05:44 PM UTC-4, Volker Braun wrote: >>> >>> There are a number of optional databases without or with incomplete >>> SPKG.txt. If nobody knows the copyright status of the following optional >>> spkgs then they will have to be deleted: >>> >>> cunningham_tables >>> database_jones_numfield >>> database_kohel >>> database_odlyzko_zeta >>> database_sloane_oeis >>> database_stein_watkins_mini.p0 >>> >>> Also, if nobody steps up to write a SPKG.txt file >>> (http://www.sagemath.org/doc/developer/producing_spkgs.html#the-file-spkg-txt) >>> then they will have to be moved to experimental IMHO. >>> >>> The ticket for making the optional spkgs ready for the sage-git directory >>> layout is here: http://trac.sagemath.org/14962. Optional spkgs can have >>> their build script moved into the git repo, but you can also use the old >>> workflow for the spkg. But the above spkgs don't work with the new directory >>> layout and need some changes for the new paths. I can fix the paths if you >>> don't want to, but I can't invent a copyright status... >>> >> >> >> First, as for the Odlyzko spkg, >> http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/databases/sage/databases/odlyzko.html >> also would have to be changed... but >> http://www.dtc.umn.edu/~odlyzko/zeta_tables/ seems to indicate they are >> almost free for the taking. Since Prof. Odlyzko seems to keep his website >> up to date and refers to William's books as references for a current class, >> I'm cc:ing him in the hopes that he'll be able to clarify the copyright >> status soon enough to satisfy you :-) >> >> Prof. Odlyzko, is there any copyright status we could put on your zeta >> function database to keep it a legitimate part of Sage? It is obviously >> extremely useful to have as (an optional) part of this open source software. >> >> >>> database_stein_watkins_mini.p0 >>> >> >> Wouldn't this have the same status as the "huge" database >> http://www.sagemath.org/doc/reference/databases/sage/databases/stein_watkins.html >> ? Presumably some random (for certain values of random) person affiliated >> with Sage should know the copyright status of this one... just sayin'. > > I own the "copyright" on the stein-watkins tables, and definitely > anybody can use them however they want. They're just raw data. > Somebody could recompute exactly the same information in a year if > they wanted to. >
That sounds like a challenge! I was looking into the (large) s-w database a couple of days ago and had been thinking of writing spkg.txt files for both as well as upgrading the spkg-install scripts. For the large db the current install script fails on systems for which "mv -rv" is not allowed (e.g. linux), and even replacing it with "mv -v" fails if you already have installed the mini version. Now of which would be hard to fix. John > -- William > >> - kcrisman >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "sage-devel" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > William Stein > Professor of Mathematics > University of Washington > http://wstein.org > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.