On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 4:50:10 PM UTC, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 3:33:11 PM UTC, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 3:06:46 PM UTC, Erik Bray wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > Hi Erik, >>> > >>> > would this work on Windows running in a VM? >>> > Ideally, for testing purposes, that's what one would prefer over >>> having >>> > a dedicated box for testing. >>> >>> It should work. I really ought to be doing that myself but I've been >>> using a dedicated box (on the plus side that has revealed interesting >>> things that occur during *uninstallation*). I just don't have a >>> license handy by which I could easily make a Windows VM. >>> >> >> let me try with Google Compute Engine if this will fly... >> > > it does not work out of the box (I tried it on an GCE instance running > Windows Server 2012 R2 Datacenter) > the install bails out at the moment VirtualBox gets installed. > > It has left behind few things, one is Docker Quickstart Terminal. > It I try it I get: > > Running pre-create checks... > Error with pre-create check: "This computer doesn't have VT-X/AMD-v > enabled. Enabling it in the BIOS is mandatory" > Looks like something went wrong... Press any key to continue... > > I also got GIT GUI, Git Bash, and GIT CMD. (GIT GUI seems to work, I did > not try others) > > Interestingly, I can install VirtualBox directly (just the default from > their website), although when I try installing a guest OS, it tells me they > must be 32-bit. > (Does this mean that the host is 32-bit?) >
well, it probably won't work this way, at least according to a number of internet links, GCE cannot run nested VMs, at least not directly. There is something by Oracle/Ravello that seems to be able to fill this gap. As well, it is meant to be in some versions of the upcoming Windows update, beta of which is already released... > Dima > > > > > > > > > >> But as long as you can run Virtualbox inside Virtualbox (which last I >>> tried works) then yes. >>> >>> > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 11:15:58 AM UTC, Erik Bray wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Hi all, >>> >> >>> >> I've been working for a few weeks on an installer for Sage on >>> Windows, >>> >> which takes advantage of Docker to accomplish this.* The goal of >>> this >>> >> project is to make it possible to run Sage on Windows with as much >>> >> transparency as possible, such that the user isn't really aware that >>> >> there is any virtualization involved. As you can read in my report >>> >> for the OpenDreamKit project on Docker containers [1] there are >>> limits >>> >> to this. >>> >> >>> >> However, in the ideal case a user simply downloads and runs an >>> >> executable--clicks through a graphical install wizard, and then gets >>> a >>> >> desktop icon which launches a Jupyter notebook (with sage and >>> terminal >>> >> support) in their default web browser. Although there are still a >>> few >>> >> rough edges [2] the alpha version of the Sage for Windows installer >>> >> that I have for you today does just that: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> https://github.com/embray/sage-windows/releases/download/v1a1/SageMath-7.0-1a1-fat.exe >>> >>> >> >>> >> My hope is for this to eventually be adopted into the SageMath >>> project >>> >> as the "official" distribution for Windows, replacing the existing >>> >> VM-based solution as I believe that this gives an overall >>> >> lighter-weight and more transparently "native" user experience. In >>> >> the future the same approach could also be adopted--I think--to >>> >> provide a "local" installation of SMC. >>> >> >>> >> Now, if anyone with access to a Windows machine (Windows 7 or newer), >>> >> it would be a big favor if I could get a few testers to bang this >>> >> around a bit and see what breaks and what works and what could be >>> >> improved. >>> >> >>> >> To be clear, right now it only supports running the notebook, though >>> >> I'm also working on making it possible to run `sage` at a Windows >>> >> command prompt (almost working). Also be aware if you try to test >>> >> this: The biggest limitation for now (as described also in [1]) is >>> >> that for Docker on Windows hardware virtualization support is >>> required >>> >> to be enabled. If this is not enabled the most likely outcome is >>> that >>> >> the installer will fail with an error message like "Could not start >>> >> Docker VM". In this case you will have to grub around in your BIOS >>> >> settings to find hardware assisted virtualization support--this of >>> >> course is going to be the most difficult aspect of making this >>> >> available to "average" users. A workaround may be possible but I'm >>> >> not sure yet. >>> >> >>> >> Be aware also that the installer can take a few minutes to run (as >>> >> much as 5 minutes even on a reasonably fast machine) mostly due to it >>> >> being highly compressed. >>> >> >>> >> Anyways, I look forward to your questions and feedback! >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> Erik >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> * I'm aware of the irony that I only just recently chided someone on >>> >> this list for appearing dismissive of working on native Windows >>> >> support for sage, while at the same time promoting a VM based >>> solution >>> >> for Windows :) Nonetheless I intend this only to be a temporary >>> >> solution, albeit a nicer solution than currently exists for Windows. >>> >> >>> >> [1] >>> >> >>> https://github.com/OpenDreamKit/OpenDreamKit/wiki/D3.1-Virtual-images-and-containers#sagemath >>> >>> >> [2] https://github.com/embray/sage-windows/issues >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > "sage-devel" group. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> > email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. >>> > To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. >>> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. >>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
