On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Jeroen Demeyer <jdeme...@cage.ugent.be> wrote:
> My vote:
>
>> [X] Phase out properties which perform any non-trivial computation
>
>
> In certain cases, properties might be useful (but it could very well be that
> there are 0 such cases in Sage).

I generally feel that properties *should* be used in general for
invariants of some object, regardless of how it's computed in the
first place.  I see the point about not using them for "non-trivial"
computations but I also find the lack of a clear definition of
"non-trivial" troubling.

I agree with Jeroen that there may be exceptions.  I think a strict
rule against "properties in public APIs" is asking for trouble, and
that this should still be considered on a case-by-case basis.

Perhaps more controversially, I'm fond of creating proxy objects that
can become callable if need be  For example an int that usually has an
invariant value, but in might rare cases can be modified by some
additional context that would be provided by "calling" it, in which
case I make a proxy-int that's callable.  I think in these cases
Sage's policy has been to make them methods with zero required
positional arguments, which is fine too.  It's my preference, but it
also has downfalls, so it's not a sword I care to die on :)

Erik

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