+1 on splitting it out as a standalone Python package. With a bit of luck, a new set of contributors for it can be found that way.
On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 11:06:47 AM UTC-4, Erik Bray wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 4:29 PM Nils Bruin <nbr...@sfu.ca <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 1:46:47 AM UTC-7, Erik Bray wrote: > >> > >> There is a cool module in sage called sage.misc.explain_pickle, which > >> is useful for helping to understand and debug how non-trivial objects > >> in Sage are pickled and unpickled. > >> > > I am adding another testimonial on the usefulness of the routine. On > several occasions I was in a pickle (sorry for the pun), which could be > solved immediately by explain_pickle. it was a big time-saver that it was > available *right there*, because I wasn't looking forward to having to hunt > down a third party package that may or may not help me. I also think that > with multiprocessing, serialization remains very important to support for > (hopefully) all data structures in sage. That means that whenever a new > structure pops up, errors and debugging will be inevitable. The problems in > serialization are often triggered by non-local interactions, so I would not > expect that problems with serialization in sage will become rarer (in fact, > I expect them to become more complex due to more intricate interactions). > > > > I would be a little sad to see explain_pickle go. > > Per my reply to Jeroen, what if it were still "there" in > sage.misc.explain_pickle, but the meat of it were moved out to a > separate module (which could still be included in > sage-the-distribution, as at least an optional package if not a > standard package)? > > My reasoning here is not so much that it isn't useful (which I think > it clearly is), but rather that it's a pretty general tool that > deserves to live outside Sage. And it's also in need of maintenance, > which eventually will make it a blocker for Sage, which is not so good > given that it can clearly exist outside of Sage itself. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
