Thanks. This is the kind of break that is to be expected in an alpha, but 
normally something like this in a beta is a pretty big deal. It would 
instill confidence if this were followed up very quickly with a release 
aimed (purely) at fixing the rather bad regression.

In fact, for reassurance, it would be better if a straight-out revert was 
merged and then a careful new attempt was tried. It can help to have a 
public fumble like this explicitly acknowledged and fixed.

On Tuesday, 23 September 2025 at 13:36:06 UTC-7 Volker Braun wrote:

> Thanks, I'll revert the offending PR it in 
> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/40877
>
> I'm running "make distclean" semi-regularly, but apparently distclean 
> doesn't delete enough artifacts to trigger this particular fail
> On Monday, September 22, 2025 at 11:31:04 PM UTC+2 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>> tested by reviewers, by the release manager, by the CI - it's just too 
>> long to test from a clean repo checkout. Sorry.
>>
>>
>>
>> On September 22, 2025 1:39:19 PM CDT, John H Palmieri <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> As I said, I think the problem is the removal of the file 
>>> `pkgs/sage-conf/_sage_conf/_conf.py.in`, which happened in 
>>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/40765. You might try testing 
>>> those PRs before positively reviewing them.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 22, 2025 at 11:05:28 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>>
>>>> ./configure --disable-sage_conf && make
>>>>
>>>> should complete and work.
>>>> sage_conf isn't needed anymore, but I am not sure now what's wrong 
>>>> without this "disable"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On September 22, 2025 12:57:45 PM CDT, John H Palmieri <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This fails to build for me. (By "this", I mean `./bootstrap && 
>>>>> ./configure && make`.) I see this message in install.log:
>>>>>
>>>>> make[3]: *** No rule to make target 
>>>>> `/Users/palmieri/Sage/TESTING/clean/sage-10.8.beta3/pkgs/sage-conf/_sage_conf/_conf.py',
>>>>>  
>>>>> needed by 
>>>>> `/Users/palmieri/Sage/TESTING/clean/sage-10.8.beta3/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/installed/sage_conf-10.8.beta4'.
>>>>>  
>>>>>  Stop.
>>>>> make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm guessing this is because someone deleted 
>>>>> pkgs/sage-conf/_sage_conf/_conf.py.in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, September 21, 2025 at 11:19:32 AM UTC-7 Volker Braun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" git 
>>>>>> branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
>>>>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 83b52a79bab (tag: 10.8.beta4, github/develop) Updated SageMath 
>>>>>> version to 10.8.beta4
>>>>>> 9c1da99ac79 gh-40850: fixing a bug in perfect_power
>>>>>> 4e5f1d9ee8b gh-40849: some details in arith/misc
>>>>>> d87f9dfd541 gh-40848: type annotation for is_simple and is_smooth
>>>>>> 82925d244c4 gh-40842: git-ignore sagemath.egg-info
>>>>>> 800f78b2067 gh-40837: adding a comment about chain_polynomial
>>>>>> 872adfb54cd gh-40836: Fix 
>>>>>> BipartiteGraph.vertex_cover(value_only=True) for disconnected graphs
>>>>>> 7271bd0e54b gh-40833: various details in coding
>>>>>> 4f0a7283cb6 gh-40830: Add every path in XDG_DATA_DIRS to 
>>>>>> `sage_data_paths`
>>>>>> 3c071b3869e gh-40829: a few fixes for pycodestyle
>>>>>> 7bb0818d549 gh-40827: ⬆️ Bump astral-sh/setup-uv from 6.6.1 to 6.7.0
>>>>>> 59139846046 gh-40826: Add some more "long time" annotations
>>>>>> 3b76ec2a0b4 gh-40821: Devcontainer: use devcontainer id as key for 
>>>>>> venv and build directory
>>>>>> 1eb2b9aec16 gh-40819: various details in algebras, categories
>>>>>> d5468257435 gh-40818: add Newton polytopes for Laurent polynomials
>>>>>> 3142b99ddda gh-40817: some details about imports in combinat
>>>>>> 4f4d6e7d419 gh-40815: Speed up computation of radical of polynomial
>>>>>> eb4f55ce2ca gh-40811: Fixes incorrect jordan form issue
>>>>>> d2e4be5bdf9 gh-40808: add Newton polytopes in one variable
>>>>>> f911c0bdbd3 gh-40799: Move typing imports to TYPE_CHECKING block and 
>>>>>> enable relevant ruff checks
>>>>>> 2c1f272d743 gh-40797: Build metadata fixes 10.8.beta2
>>>>>> c55f6ae194c gh-40771: Don't fall back to pari to compute the 
>>>>>> discriminant of a maximal order.
>>>>>> 861e13d46eb gh-40765: Fix include directories in editable installs
>>>>>> 217acf3331b gh-40716: Make computation of LU decomposition of matrix 
>>>>>> over GF(2^e) interruptible
>>>>>> 67330f3e735 gh-40702: add harmonic polytope to the library
>>>>>> 57aa4b58d8f gh-40697: Fix bug in SkewPolynomialRing when twisting 
>>>>>> morphism is trivial
>>>>>> 7562e51842b gh-40686: Install pyx sources with meson
>>>>>> 3df6f01387d gh-40681: Add subsection Documentation Previews to 
>>>>>> developer guide
>>>>>> 4758b85a182 gh-40587: Minor documentation formatting improvement
>>>>>> d5a1370ee51 gh-39905: Improve documentation of various gap-related 
>>>>>> methods
>>>>>> 1b43bdbd8ab gh-39718: Add a note regarding element containment testing
>>>>>> 02da09c8a2a gh-39512: Add test for github format of doctest report
>>>>>> ccd017ef506 gh-39364: bump gmpy2 to 2.2.1
>>>>>> 53bea4cf004 gh-38589: FiniteField: make GF(p,n) the same as GF(p^n)
>>>>>> ad8740465a9 gh-36892: Decapitalize filenames in PREP doc
>>>>>> 28b7af09866 (tag: 10.8.beta3) Updated SageMath version to 10.8.beta3
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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