On September 25, 2025 6:41:56 PM CDT, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Thanks. This is the kind of break that is to be expected in an alpha, but
>normally something like this in a beta is a pretty big deal.
Maybe you should help with testing more often? When was the last time you
reviewed a Sage PR?
> It would
>instill confidence if this were followed up very quickly with a release
>aimed (purely) at fixing the rather bad regression.
>
>In fact, for reassurance, it would be better if a straight-out revert was
>merged and then a careful new attempt was tried.
Please, no. We already have a fix for this, well tested and positively reviewed.
No need to revert anything - in particular as this saddles other people, not
you or others who ask for revert, with unneeded extra work.
> It can help to have a
>public fumble like this explicitly acknowledged and fixed.
I feel like you want punishment for these responsible for this minor screwup,
in the form of extra labour?
We have a clear way forward already, there is absolutely no need for these
suggestions.
>
>On Tuesday, 23 September 2025 at 13:36:06 UTC-7 Volker Braun wrote:
>
>> Thanks, I'll revert the offending PR it in
>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/40877
>>
>> I'm running "make distclean" semi-regularly, but apparently distclean
>> doesn't delete enough artifacts to trigger this particular fail
>> On Monday, September 22, 2025 at 11:31:04 PM UTC+2 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>
>>> tested by reviewers, by the release manager, by the CI - it's just too
>>> long to test from a clean repo checkout. Sorry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On September 22, 2025 1:39:19 PM CDT, John H Palmieri <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As I said, I think the problem is the removal of the file
>>>> `pkgs/sage-conf/_sage_conf/_conf.py.in`, which happened in
>>>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/40765. You might try testing
>>>> those PRs before positively reviewing them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, September 22, 2025 at 11:05:28 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ./configure --disable-sage_conf && make
>>>>>
>>>>> should complete and work.
>>>>> sage_conf isn't needed anymore, but I am not sure now what's wrong
>>>>> without this "disable"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On September 22, 2025 12:57:45 PM CDT, John H Palmieri <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This fails to build for me. (By "this", I mean `./bootstrap &&
>>>>>> ./configure && make`.) I see this message in install.log:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> make[3]: *** No rule to make target
>>>>>> `/Users/palmieri/Sage/TESTING/clean/sage-10.8.beta3/pkgs/sage-conf/_sage_conf/_conf.py',
>>>>>>
>>>>>> needed by
>>>>>> `/Users/palmieri/Sage/TESTING/clean/sage-10.8.beta3/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.13/var/lib/sage/installed/sage_conf-10.8.beta4'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stop.
>>>>>> make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm guessing this is because someone deleted
>>>>>> pkgs/sage-conf/_sage_conf/_conf.py.in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, September 21, 2025 at 11:19:32 AM UTC-7 Volker Braun wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" git
>>>>>>> branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at
>>>>>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 83b52a79bab (tag: 10.8.beta4, github/develop) Updated SageMath
>>>>>>> version to 10.8.beta4
>>>>>>> 9c1da99ac79 gh-40850: fixing a bug in perfect_power
>>>>>>> 4e5f1d9ee8b gh-40849: some details in arith/misc
>>>>>>> d87f9dfd541 gh-40848: type annotation for is_simple and is_smooth
>>>>>>> 82925d244c4 gh-40842: git-ignore sagemath.egg-info
>>>>>>> 800f78b2067 gh-40837: adding a comment about chain_polynomial
>>>>>>> 872adfb54cd gh-40836: Fix
>>>>>>> BipartiteGraph.vertex_cover(value_only=True) for disconnected graphs
>>>>>>> 7271bd0e54b gh-40833: various details in coding
>>>>>>> 4f0a7283cb6 gh-40830: Add every path in XDG_DATA_DIRS to
>>>>>>> `sage_data_paths`
>>>>>>> 3c071b3869e gh-40829: a few fixes for pycodestyle
>>>>>>> 7bb0818d549 gh-40827: ⬆️ Bump astral-sh/setup-uv from 6.6.1 to 6.7.0
>>>>>>> 59139846046 gh-40826: Add some more "long time" annotations
>>>>>>> 3b76ec2a0b4 gh-40821: Devcontainer: use devcontainer id as key for
>>>>>>> venv and build directory
>>>>>>> 1eb2b9aec16 gh-40819: various details in algebras, categories
>>>>>>> d5468257435 gh-40818: add Newton polytopes for Laurent polynomials
>>>>>>> 3142b99ddda gh-40817: some details about imports in combinat
>>>>>>> 4f4d6e7d419 gh-40815: Speed up computation of radical of polynomial
>>>>>>> eb4f55ce2ca gh-40811: Fixes incorrect jordan form issue
>>>>>>> d2e4be5bdf9 gh-40808: add Newton polytopes in one variable
>>>>>>> f911c0bdbd3 gh-40799: Move typing imports to TYPE_CHECKING block and
>>>>>>> enable relevant ruff checks
>>>>>>> 2c1f272d743 gh-40797: Build metadata fixes 10.8.beta2
>>>>>>> c55f6ae194c gh-40771: Don't fall back to pari to compute the
>>>>>>> discriminant of a maximal order.
>>>>>>> 861e13d46eb gh-40765: Fix include directories in editable installs
>>>>>>> 217acf3331b gh-40716: Make computation of LU decomposition of matrix
>>>>>>> over GF(2^e) interruptible
>>>>>>> 67330f3e735 gh-40702: add harmonic polytope to the library
>>>>>>> 57aa4b58d8f gh-40697: Fix bug in SkewPolynomialRing when twisting
>>>>>>> morphism is trivial
>>>>>>> 7562e51842b gh-40686: Install pyx sources with meson
>>>>>>> 3df6f01387d gh-40681: Add subsection Documentation Previews to
>>>>>>> developer guide
>>>>>>> 4758b85a182 gh-40587: Minor documentation formatting improvement
>>>>>>> d5a1370ee51 gh-39905: Improve documentation of various gap-related
>>>>>>> methods
>>>>>>> 1b43bdbd8ab gh-39718: Add a note regarding element containment testing
>>>>>>> 02da09c8a2a gh-39512: Add test for github format of doctest report
>>>>>>> ccd017ef506 gh-39364: bump gmpy2 to 2.2.1
>>>>>>> 53bea4cf004 gh-38589: FiniteField: make GF(p,n) the same as GF(p^n)
>>>>>>> ad8740465a9 gh-36892: Decapitalize filenames in PREP doc
>>>>>>> 28b7af09866 (tag: 10.8.beta3) Updated SageMath version to 10.8.beta3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
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