On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Burcin Erocal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:36:46 -0800 (PST) > cesarnda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Actually this sum can't be done by Maxima, but Derive can do it (even >> an old version of derive). do you have an idea of how this problem is >> planning to be solved? > > As Robert Dodier pointed out, Maxima can actually do the sum, it is > just a bug in the maxima interface which fails to call the right > function. As he also mentioned, Maxima could probably solve this problem > before any others. > > Here is a paragraph from A = B [1], p. 74: > > R. W. Gosper, Jr., discovered his algorithm in conjunction with his > work on the development of one of the first symbolic algebra > programs, Macsyma. Because of his algorithm, Macsyma had a > seemingly uncanny ability to find simple formulas for sums of the > type (5.1.1). > > [1] http://www.math.upenn.edu/~wilf/AeqB.html > > > Returning to the question of how Sage plans to handle this, the short > answer is "I am working on it." :) > > We will have a completely new implementation of summation, independent > of the one in Maxima. At the moment I have an implementation of the > theoretical framework which lets you solve much more complicated > sums than the ones above. Unfortunately, coming up with an interface > that spares the user from the gory details of the theory will still be a > challenge. Thus, it will be some time before these problems are > handled natively in Sage, but then Sage will (hopefully) be more capable > than the others out there.
Is it still a plan to make the symbolic package standalone, or will this by tied and work only with the whole Sage? Ondrej --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---