To the best of my knowledge, the new symbolic (are you referring to pynac?) should just be considered as the core of symbolic, and the utilities functions should be continue to exist on top of SAGE (or any other package actually used, like maxima).
Unfortunately, it seems that the inverse laplace function from maxima is not the very best, see: http://www.math.utexas.edu/pipermail/maxima/2007/008424.html http://www.math.utexas.edu/pipermail/maxima/2006/000036.html Is there any sort of representation of piecewise functions in SAGE? What about delta function (heaviside) or unit step? These are basics for implementing inverse laplace in my opinion. Maxima already has delta() function, and signum() function (that can be good to represent the unit step, I don't know if it's already built- in maxima function), can we take advantage of that? http://www.math.utexas.edu/pipermail/maxima/2006/003249.html There has been a short discussion about that here: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_frm/thread/7f33e7001e480d47/4f46fff6a387becc?lnk=gst&q=maxima+delta#4f46fff6a387becc I know I can seem pretty boring, but I really think that SAGE has a great potential, and I would like to enhance its engineering power! As it is right now, it still lacks something from that point of view. For example (I know, I always go off-topic), has a good units of measurement manager ever been included? Also about that you had a long discussion, but I don't know the results: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_frm/thread/8791448b7a303ce9/9dc4cc27e6d4eafb?lnk=gst&q=units#9dc4cc27e6d4eafb Please, forgive me again for being so annoying Maurizio On 26 Feb, 23:16, Robert Bradshaw <rober...@math.washington.edu> wrote: > This is outside my area of expertise, so I don't have any immediate > pointers, but hopefully the new symbolics will have abilities to do > something like this. > > - Robert > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Maurizio wrote: > > > Well, that was exactly what I was going to do, but I have no idea how > > to implement something like a (symbolic) k-th order derivative, such > > that I could then do the limit. Moreover, the derivative seems to be > > something close to the core of something like a CAS, so I don't think > > I could be able to help for that. > > > That's why I was asking for help at least for this derivative part > > (and maybe also the limit is not so easy as well). > > > I will really try to be helpful, but I still need some support > > > Regards > > > Maurizio > > > On 26 Feb, 21:13, Robert Bradshaw <rober...@math.washington.edu> > > wrote: > >> On Feb 26, 2009, at 2:49 AM, Maurizio wrote: > > >>> Hi all, > > >>> what do you think about the inverse_laplace() now present in SAGE? > > >>> I am not very satisfied, I am not able to derive the results for > >>> even > >>> simple functions. > > >> It is a simple wrapper around the maxima inverse laplace function. > > >>> What I'd like is to get numerical results, so I thought there should > >>> have been a way to obtain them, but I didn't find. Can you help me? > > >>> In addition, I found on the net the Post's inversion Laplace formula > >>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%27s_inversion_formula). It has > >>> been successfully implemented in Maple, here: > >>>http://www.mapleprimes.com/blog/alec/numerical-inverse-laplace- > >>> transform-0 > > >>> I wanted to try this out in SAGE, but the problem seems to be the > >>> necessity of doing the k-th derivative of the function, where k is a > >>> symbolic variable (that has to go to +Infinity then). I couldn't do > >>> that, do you know if that's possible? > > >> Not that I am aware of at the moment, but if it would be great if > >> someone (for instance you) could implement it and send us a patch. > > >> - Robert --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
