Maybe a reverse DNS issue?

Just a guess.....



Michael Shook
Technical Analyst
Saddle Creek Corporation
723 Joe Tamplin Industrial Blvd
Macon GA  31217
478 742 8740 ext. 105 (work)
478 256 9318 (mobile)
478 742 7917 (fax)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://www.saddlecrk.com

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/23/04 03:24PM >>>
Interesting. When I have all ports open, I get a 220 return right away.
When only 25 is open, I get a 220 return after exactly 30 seconds every
time.
 
I tried telnetting to other mail servers with ports other than 25 closed
and they connect right away. So its obvious now this isn't a problem
with SA. I just wish I knew why my mail server takes 30 seconds. It's
Qmail and I haven't found anything showing that it needs some other port
before opening a connection.
 
Thanks for your help.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [SA-list] SMTP alerts failing when closing ports other than
25


For SMTP we only use 25 and 53 (for the DNS resolution).
 
Try:
    telnet <hostname> 25
and do you get a return (220...) and how long does it take to get that
return?

Dirk. 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Fernando Scalini
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [SA-list] SMTP alerts failing when closing ports other than
25


Thanks.
 
SA version 4.1.1567
 
With full logging, I get the following when using an external SMTP
server
Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:41:33 PM Sending email message (This is a
test message sent by Servers Alive)
Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:41:49 PM SMTP Error : T: 16Pfalse
Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:41:49 PM SMTP Error : stopped sending mail
Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:41:49 PM SMTP Error : 
 
And I get the following with "Send Direct"
Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:04:50 PM Sending email message (This is a
test message sent by Servers Alive)
Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:05:06 PM SMTP Error : stopped sending mail
Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:05:06 PM SMTP Error : 
 
SA is running on the web server that has most of the ports closed. It is
the same server where other components can send email without problems
(using same SMTP server as SA). DNS port is open (as is 25, 80, 443,
1433) but I am also using a numeric IP to point to the SMTP server when
using "normal" send.
 
It works fine when all ports are open, so I think the main question is
what other ports besides SMTP and DNS is SA trying to use (if it's an SA
problem to begin with).
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [SA-list] SMTP alerts failing when closing ports other than
25


What version of SA?
And are you using full logging?
If so then there should be a line before that saying when the
mailsending started.
 
Also from the mail it's not very clear what you're exactly doing.  Are
you using the direct send or the "normal" send? On what system did you
close all the ports? On the system running SA or on the system running
the SMTP server?  If the system running SA, then you could also have a
problem with the direct send that it also needs access to a DNS server
in order to resolve the SMTP server it should be using?
 
 

Dirk. 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Fernando Scalini
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [SA-list] SMTP alerts failing when closing ports other than
25


Saturday, February 21, 2004 5:36:08 PM SMTP Error : stopped sending mail
Saturday, February 21, 2004 5:36:08 PM SMTP Error : 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 11:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [SA-list] SMTP alerts failing when closing ports other than
25


Looks like SA is able to connect to the port but is not receiving the
correct return from the server.
Leaving the timestamps from the logging could confirm this.
 

Dirk. 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Fernando Scalini
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 3:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: [SA-list] SMTP alerts failing when closing ports other than 25


Using IPsec, I close down all non-essential ports on this web server. I
leave port 25 open so asp scripts can send out email and they work fine.
 
However, SA can't send unless I open up all ports. This happens whether
I use "Send Direct", an external SMTP server, or the IIS SMTP server on
the same box as SA. Does SA require more than just TCP Port 25? What has
me stumped is that asp scripts can send email out just fine even though
SA can't.
 

Log has two lines for each failure. Second one has nothing after "SMTP
Error :"
SMTP Error : stopped sending mail
SMTP Error : 
 
I checked the box for "Don't ping the SMTP servers...". SA version is
4.1.1567. W2KAS SP4
 
I checked archives and google and can't find a solution to this problem.
 
Thanks!

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