Don't start programming in C then, or God forbid, commenting your sourcecode :-)
Frans > > Nope , as its hard to get LD A,(HL) wrong :) > > > C > > > > Just curious, do you have dyslexia? > Does your spelling ever get in the way when you're programming? Frans > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 09 March 2002 15:20 > To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' > Subject: FW: In response to Andrew > > > > Oh they Care allright ( i had a nice chat with Eidos(own's Domark) > after i released my stuff ) , never did with Dma/Sony over lemmings > thought. I think it also help me inb the fact that i once worked for > Domark after doing Sam Version :) > > But i won on the contract i had with SamCo/Domark/Me , Basicly the > Copyrighted Code for Sam version reverted to me after five years (and > beens as it was Hand crafted and not ported) , i could do as i wished. > The Gfx was all mine to (Except for the Loading screen done by Neil > Holmes). And beens as i was not gaining any money (Hense it can only be > sold via a NON PROFIT MAKING COMPANY) , i was in the clear. > > Lemming could be an interesting one , as Gfx was direct from Dma (touch > up/Modified by Doug Holmes) , but beens as Sony(own's psygnosis) holds > the contracts (if they are still in force) , or Dma would/have become > the full owners by know , but there is no intent to defraud. Or > Devaluate a ageing product , infact i hope its helps peeps who want to > know how to code or sifted though it and found usefull bits to help > peeps on. > > I have (IMHO) legimently release what is mine ( contract with > Fred/Dma/Psygnosis/Samco/Domark expired after five years , with all the > Sam code copyright referring to me, and Gfx to the artists & Music to > the Musician ), and i have left all copyrights intack (visable) , and i > also acknoledge them. > > All i can say is , > > 1. If you have no right to release , post , upload then your on your > own (i have been over zelious on this from time to time , and peeps > have rightly ( but maybe over agressivly ) , Objected. Tip - try saying > "I own thoose please remove" - instead of "Who the F**K has upload all > copyright material, and then go into atack mode" > > 2. If you do post/upload copyright material , be prepared to answer > why. > > 3. If you own it do what you like , but be carefull on TM & (R) as they > are inforcable for 100's of years > > 4. Don't try my route , I have just been lucky > > Nearly the last point for everyone to take note is Ultimate (RARE) , > they refuse anyone to release upload/down any of there old titles (some > obscure intelli law) , unless its packed in the method they choose (i,e > as you would dload it from thier site) , if your found to have unzipped > + added or removed anything you have violate their rights and you will > be knobled. > > But , this is the biggy , you can upload/download what you want , till > u get caught. Then your into a whole new world , this one saw's in this > order > > 1. Benifit of the doubt , ask them to remove. Also ask how much it's > cost you (In Sam's case this is 0.00 + Vat) 2. Failure on above by > poster/holder, so seek legal if have Copyright/Tm/R, Else go sulk 3. > Failure on above by poster/holder, old bill court , no computers etc > etc etc > > So you all be carefull out there :) > > C > > Ps I still am unable to spell correctly, and can be totally not arshed > to use M$ spell/gramma checker :) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Fred Bloggs > Sent: 08 March 2002 22:10 > To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Subject: In response to Andrew > > >>On Friday 08 Mar 2002 6:36 pm, Andrew Collier wrote: > >> > Did you read my last post in response to sarcasm?!! It most >> > definitely >>was >> > NOT directed at the copyright holders of old games. >> >>Then who else *was* it directed at? > > IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE IRONY OF SUCH A SITUATION, I'M NOT GOING TO > EXPLAIN WHAT WAS ESSENTIALLY A LIGHT HEARTED SARCASTIC COMMENT. > >>"I know - once we've cracked how to get it up and running why don't we >>sell it Persona for charity purposes...." >> >> > >Just because you can download games for other systems, doesn't make > >> > >it legal. You mentioned JetPac, and Ultimate are one of the >> > >companies who most viciously protect their old Spectrum games: you > >> > >didn't find >>JetPac >> > > at World Of Spectrum. >> > >> > Correct! I never said I did!!! >> >>So why should the Sam's copyright-holders let you download their >>software, based on the unauthorized and illegal availability of that >>particular title? > > SO WHY DOES CHRIS WHITE DO THIS WITH PRINCE OF PERSIA THEN? > >> > >I think the point is that people on this list only want to point >> > >out download sites which respect the wishes of the copyright owner. > >> > >If that wish is that some money goes to charity every time somebody > >> > >gets a >>game, >> > >then it's their right to say so and you should respect it too. >> > >> > I would if I knew what games they were referring to! >> >>ANYTHING which isn't specifically made free, is copyrighted to >>somebody. Frankly I'm quite surprised by the number of people who don't > >>seem to immediately realise this. > > WE DO REALISE THIS ANDREW, CHECK OUT THE 5,438 GAMES FOR DOWNLOAD AT > WORLD > OF SPECTRUM AND YOU'LL REALISE THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS DON'T CARE BECAUSE > THE > COMPUTER IS DEAD AND THE SOFTWARE IS NOT FOR SALE! AS DOES CHRIS WHITE! > >> > >Persona negotiated with some programmers to get rights to >> > >distribute a number of their titles, when the original publisher(s) > >> > >went into liquidation. I don't see that the situation should be any > >> > >different between these titles and the ones developed for Persona >> > >specifically. >> > >> > You don't? Well that's your opinion, which I will respect. Amstrad >>bought >> > the rights to the Sinclair ROM - what would you say if they charged >> > you >>for >> > using that, however indirectly? >> >>I would either pay up, or I would not use it. Probably the latter, but >>I wouldn't go around mailing lists complaining about how stupid they >>were for excercising their legal rights. > > SO ON NOTE THINK ON HOW NICE IT IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY UP! > >> > What would you say if Simon Owen charged you for using SIM Coupe? >> >>I'd say "That's a breach of the GPL, Sir". Fortunately he doesn't. >> > WELL DO YOU EVER WONDER WHY HE DOESN'T?!! OR WHY CHRIS PILE DOESN'T > CHARGE > FOR DEFENDER? IT'S CALLED GOODWILL, AND LONG MAY IT CONTINUE, OTHERWISE > THERE WON'T BE ANY SCENE LEFT IF SUCH AN ATTITUDE PREVAILED. >> >>-- >> --- Andrew Collier ---- >> ---- http://mnemotech.ucam.org/ --- >> -- >>r<2+ T<4* cSEL dMS hEn/CB<BL A4 S+*<++ C$++L/mP W- a-- Vh+seT+ (Cantab) > >>1.1.4 > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
