Just curious, do you have dyslexia?
Does your spelling ever get in the way when you're programming?

Frans

> 
> Oh they Care allright ( i had a nice chat with Eidos(own's Domark)
> after i released my stuff ) , never did with Dma/Sony over lemmings
> thought. I think it also help me inb the fact that i once worked for
> Domark after doing Sam Version :)
> 
> But i won on the contract i had with SamCo/Domark/Me , Basicly the
> Copyrighted Code for Sam version reverted to me after five years (and
> beens as it was Hand crafted and not ported) , i could do as i wished.
> The Gfx was all mine to (Except for the Loading screen done by Neil
> Holmes). And beens as i was not gaining any money (Hense it can only be
> sold via a NON PROFIT MAKING COMPANY) , i was in the clear.
> 
> Lemming could be an interesting one , as Gfx was direct from Dma (touch
> up/Modified by Doug Holmes) , but beens as Sony(own's psygnosis) holds
> the contracts (if they are still in force) , or Dma would/have become
> the full owners by know , but there is no intent to defraud. Or
> Devaluate a ageing product , infact i hope its helps peeps who want to
> know how to code or sifted though it and found usefull bits to help
> peeps on.
> 
> I have (IMHO) legimently release what is mine ( contract with
> Fred/Dma/Psygnosis/Samco/Domark expired after five years , with all the
> Sam code copyright referring to me, and Gfx to the artists & Music to
> the Musician ), and i have left all copyrights intack (visable) , and i
> also acknoledge them.
> 
> All i can say is ,
> 
> 1. If you have no right to release , post , upload then your on your
> own (i have been over zelious on this from time to time , and peeps
> have rightly ( but maybe over agressivly ) , Objected. Tip - try saying
> "I own thoose please remove" - instead of "Who the F**K has upload all
> copyright material, and then go into atack mode"
> 
> 2. If you do post/upload copyright material , be prepared to answer
> why.
> 
> 3. If you own it do what you like , but be carefull on TM & (R) as they
> are inforcable for 100's of years
> 
> 4. Don't try my route , I have just been lucky
> 
> Nearly the last point for everyone to take note is Ultimate (RARE) ,
> they refuse anyone to release upload/down any of there old titles (some
> obscure intelli law) , unless its packed in the method they choose (i,e
> as you would dload it from thier site) , if your found to have unzipped
> + added or removed anything you have violate their rights and you will
> be knobled.
> 
> But , this is the biggy , you can upload/download what you want , till
> u get caught. Then your into a whole new world , this one saw's in this
> order
> 
> 1. Benifit of the doubt , ask them to remove. Also ask how much it's
> cost you (In Sam's case this is 0.00 + Vat) 2. Failure on above by
> poster/holder, so seek legal if have Copyright/Tm/R, Else go sulk 3.
> Failure on above by poster/holder, old bill court , no computers etc
> etc etc
> 
> So you all be carefull out there :)
> 
> C
> 
> Ps I still am unable to spell correctly, and can be totally not arshed
> to use M$ spell/gramma checker :)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Fred Bloggs
> Sent: 08 March 2002 22:10
> To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
> Subject: In response to Andrew
> 
> 
>>On Friday 08 Mar 2002 6:36 pm, Andrew Collier wrote:
> 
>> > Did you read my last post in response to sarcasm?!! It most 
>> > definitely
>>was
>> > NOT directed at the copyright holders of old games.
>>
>>Then who else *was* it directed at?
> 
> IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE IRONY OF SUCH A SITUATION, I'M NOT GOING TO
>  EXPLAIN WHAT WAS ESSENTIALLY A LIGHT HEARTED SARCASTIC COMMENT.
> 
>>"I know - once we've cracked how to get it up and running why don't we 
>>sell it Persona for charity purposes...."
>>
>> > >Just because you can download games for other systems, doesn't make
> 
>> > >it legal. You mentioned JetPac, and Ultimate are one of the 
>> > >companies who  most viciously protect their old Spectrum games: you
> 
>> > >didn't find
>>JetPac
>> > > at World Of Spectrum.
>> >
>> > Correct! I never said I did!!!
>>
>>So why should the Sam's copyright-holders let you download their 
>>software, based on the unauthorized and illegal availability of that 
>>particular title?
> 
> SO WHY DOES CHRIS WHITE DO THIS WITH PRINCE OF PERSIA THEN?
> 
>> > >I think the point is that people on this list only want to point 
>> > >out download sites which respect the wishes of the copyright owner.
> 
>> > >If that wish is that some money goes to charity every time somebody
> 
>> > >gets a
>>game,
>> > >then it's their right to say so and you should respect it too.
>> >
>> > I would if I knew what games they were referring to!
>>
>>ANYTHING which isn't specifically made free, is copyrighted to 
>>somebody. Frankly I'm quite surprised by the number of people who don't
> 
>>seem to immediately realise this.
> 
> WE DO REALISE THIS ANDREW, CHECK OUT THE 5,438 GAMES FOR DOWNLOAD AT
> WORLD 
> OF SPECTRUM AND YOU'LL REALISE THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS DON'T CARE BECAUSE
> THE 
> COMPUTER IS DEAD AND THE SOFTWARE IS NOT FOR SALE! AS DOES CHRIS WHITE!
> 
>> > >Persona negotiated with some programmers to get rights to 
>> > >distribute a number of their titles, when the original publisher(s)
> 
>> > >went into liquidation. I don't see that the situation should be any
> 
>> > >different  between these titles and the ones developed for Persona 
>> > >specifically.
>> >
>> > You don't? Well that's your opinion, which I will respect. Amstrad
>>bought
>> > the rights to the Sinclair ROM - what would you say if they charged 
>> > you
>>for
>> > using that, however indirectly?
>>
>>I would either pay up, or I would not use it. Probably the latter, but 
>>I wouldn't go around mailing lists complaining about how stupid they 
>>were for excercising their legal rights.
> 
> SO ON NOTE THINK ON HOW NICE IT IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY UP!
> 
>> > What would you say if Simon Owen charged you for using SIM Coupe?
>>
>>I'd say "That's a breach of the GPL, Sir". Fortunately he doesn't.
>>
> WELL DO YOU EVER WONDER WHY HE DOESN'T?!! OR WHY CHRIS PILE DOESN'T
> CHARGE 
> FOR DEFENDER? IT'S CALLED GOODWILL, AND LONG MAY IT CONTINUE, OTHERWISE
>  THERE WON'T BE ANY SCENE LEFT IF SUCH AN ATTITUDE PREVAILED.
>>
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>>   ---- http://mnemotech.ucam.org/ ---
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