Maybe Rob. I'm pretty sure if the Canadians started throwing rocks over the border we would have a hard time calling that an act of war. I think maybe the kinetic idea rescues me here again?!
But who cares. I'm going to the beach. gem company www.cigital.com podcast www.cigital.com/silverbullet blog www.cigital.com/justiceleague book www.swsec.com On 6/18/10 12:23 PM, "Rob Floodeen" <flood...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Gary, Discussion on your article. You write "Plus the technical sophistication of those attacks was quite low. It's abundantly clear that similar attacks against popular U.S. e-commerce websites (Amazon or Google) would fizzle to the point of not even being noticed." I don't think technical sophistication should be an indication of warfare or an attack for any definition. I do like the kinetic aspect, but we should also include intent. But how can we do attribution to determine intent? Next the activity of Amazon and Google would be LE not Military, again outside the scope of "Cyber War". By the way, can we stop saying it. It makes me feel dirty like when the word "cracker" found it's way onto the scene. My two cents, -Rob F. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Gary McGraw <g...@cigital.com> wrote: > hi sc-l, > > Debates on the radio. Pundits on TV. Cyber War seems to be generating lots > of attention in the media. I scribbled down my thoughts in this month's > informIT column: > > http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1597476 Cyber War - Hype or > Consequences? > > Other references of note include my video podcast with Richard A. Clarke of > 9-11 and cyber czar fame (Silver Bullet 50): > http://www.cigital.com/silverbullet/show-050/ > > And a review of Clarke's book on Justice League: > http://www.cigital.com/justiceleague/2010/05/06/is-cyber-war-inevitable/ > > I'm ff to the beach for some much needed vacation. > > gem > > company www.cigital.com > podcast www.cigital.com/silverbullet > blog www.cigital.com/justiceleague > book www.swsec.com > > _______________________________________________ > Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org > List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l > List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php > SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) > as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. > Follow KRvW Associates on Twitter at: http://twitter.com/KRvW_Associates > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. Follow KRvW Associates on Twitter at: http://twitter.com/KRvW_Associates _______________________________________________
