Please correct me if the comment below is in error.

My understanding is that Red Hat has changed the rules for use of the official RHEL SRPMs, but still using the finest JDs and laws that money can be buy (as have many other for-profit corporations) and thus stay in compliance with letter of the the GPL, linux, etc., licenses, if not the spirit.

Those SRPMs may no longer be used to build any installable/executable image other than for a machine that has a RHEL paid license,, even if all RH logos, etc., are removed. Only the evidently unverifiable source via a CentOS git repository may be used to build a "competitor" distribution for installation on other than a Red Hat licensed machine. My understanding is that this was for a twofold for-profit business purpose: force those of us who require a verifiable build chain from "commercial" "supported" enterprise sources to purchase a genuine Red Hat license; and to prevent real for-profit competitors, such as Oracle, from supplying a RHEL-based distribution.

If SL ends up being just a CentOS SIG branch, then why continue with SL? And, if CentOS cannot be verified as a professional and faithful "clone" of RHEL, use CentOS only with the greatest trepidation and risk. Would Red Hat want CentOS compromised? No. But, CentOS would degenerate into an environment akin to Fedora -- something not sound enough for production use. Would CERN be willing to endorse published experimental data (e.g., Higgs boson results) that used CentOS without a proper verification chain of the source and build process?

Yasha Karant

On 06/23/2014 01:00 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
well what I dont understand here is all of RHEL SRPMs are on a web
server an can be downloaded if you have an entitlement.
all you need is
1) the CA cert located here /usr/share/rhn/RHNS-CA-CERT on any Red Hat host.
2) the entitlement cert from subscription manager winch you can get
off of access.redhat.com go to Subscriptions -> Subscription
Management -> UNITs then click on the subscription you would like to
use. you will see a Download button on the top left side of the
screen.
3) on the page where you downloaded the certificate there is a sub tab
called Content Set take the URL's listed there and prefix them with
https://cdn.redhat.com

if you connect with a browser you can see its just a standard yum repo
which uses the certificates for authentication, so most yum mirroring
tools will work just fine as long as it can supply the the PKI
(entitlement) cert to their web server.



On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Steven Timm <t...@fnal.gov> wrote:
I was at the HEPiX meeting at which those slides were presented
and there was further discussion during the course of the week
as to what would happen.  RedHat/CentOS was also represented at that
meeting in the person of Karanbir Singh.  You should not presume
that the presentations given at that meeting are the final word.

You notice that nobody with a cern.ch or fnal.gov E-mail address
has responded to this thread up until now.  When they have
something concrete they will respond with the details.

Steve Timm



It seems it is more likely that Scientific LInux 7 will become a Special
Interest Group (SIG) of CentOS 7. See the presentations at the Hepix
meeting
in Annecy Le Vieux, last May, on SL 10 years, notably the ones from Connie
Sieh and Jarek Polok:
http://indico.cern.ch/event/274555/session/11/#20140519

Alain

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