I will check out slackware.
Thanks
larry Linder

On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 12:40 -0700, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
> Larry,
> 
> It's NOT difficult to support a distro for 22 years.  Look at Slackware.
> 
> It's difficult to keep up with shiny kewl new toys, many of which after 
> 15 years STILL don't work correctly (i.e. don't have serious regressions 
> that break running systems).
> 
> The issue is that developers get kewl shiny new ideas (I won't name any 
> to forestall the usual religious/flame wars)... packagers weave those 
> into everything in the ecosystems without regard to end user needs... 
> Then a bug is found and all hell breaks loose.
> 
> VMWare in and of itself does NOT run end user applications.  When bugs 
> are found in the things the VMWare DOES run, the issue under discussion 
> STILL rears it's ugly head.
> 
> I ran VMWare 1.x to 2.x... Then they took away the ability to run it on 
> a stock distro at 3.x AND took away the web UI (you had to have a 
> windows application to manage VMWare).  I gave 'em the finger and moved 
> on... Now I support users of VMWare and several other versions of 
> virtualization in  number of capacities.  Things break there too, trust me.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/29/21 11:37 AM, Larry Linder wrote:
> > To support products for 22 years is difficult.
> > Using VMware is a good solution that we have been using for a long time.
> > I even use Win2000 pro for some applications and Dos all under VMWare.
> > The connection to the Linux file system is "samba".
> >
> > Everyone misses the point.  The problem is setting up a system the way
> > we want it and the ability to do that after RH 7 is broken! and has some
> > land mines.  A function that can wipe out a file system is flawed and
> > cannot be trusted.
> >
> > Fortunately VMware works - we just bought a new VMWare version.  Update
> > is painless.
> >
> > Larry Linder
> >
> > On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 09:48 -0700, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 06:43:12AM +0000, Nick Matchett wrote:
> >>> I hope that someone could help me identify an individual or business that 
> >>> would be able to help me with the following problem.
> >>> My business has some software that we acquired the responsibility to 
> >>> maintain and support, and currently sits on Scientific Linux version 6.3. 
> >>>  Unfortunately, we are at a stage where our customers are asking to bring 
> >>> the software onto a more current version of a Linux platform.
> >>> We would like to migrate to Red Hat or CentOS version 7.9  (or perhaps 
> >>> version 8)
> >>
> >> Oh, boy! We are on the receiving end of such problem with Altera. Their 
> >> latest fpga compiler
> >> does not support cyclone-1 FPGA, the last version that does still by a 
> >> miracle
> >> runs on ubuntu and centos7, and of course Altera will never update it. As 
> >> if nobody needs
> >> to compile cyclone-1 fpga code.
> >>
> >> If, like in this case, your application still does something useful and 
> >> your customers still
> >> want to run it, perhaps simplest is not to monkey around with it, just 
> >> package it
> >> as a VM container that runs on current-ish linuxes.
> >>
> >>> I hope that someone could help me identify an individual or business
> >> I wish you best luck with hiring the right staff, contractor or consultant 
> >> to resolve your trouble.
> >>
> >> K.O.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We have been working on a migration from Scientific Linux 6.3 to Redhat 
> >>> 7.9.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, we have limited Linux OS skills in our business, and we 
> >>> have approached this with a fresh RH 7.9 install and then applying the 
> >>> RPM of our software.  There is a big mismatch between Scientific Linux 
> >>> 6.3 to Redhat 7.9 in terms of libraries, file structure and type of 
> >>> libraries between the software and we have not been able to reconcile 
> >>> those.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I would appreciate any suggestion or advice on the best upgrade path to 
> >>> achieve this update  and would be happy to take recommendations on 
> >>> individuals or companies who might be interested in a professional 
> >>> service engagement to help solve the problem.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance

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