In searching for verification of the quote I posted, i read Chestnut's site, and about five or six others. Interestingly, most seemed to pull from the same major sources, as the same quotes from Rick kept popping up over and over. But I was struck with how insulated she was growing up.Not that there's anything wrong with being well off, but the way her family focused more on pretty clothes and French lessons while others fought was odd. Or as Fred Shuttlesworth said, they could afford to be on the outside preaching slow change while all the impoverished and put-upon Blacks had to struggle. I think that calling Rice "Black" is a mistake. She claims it in terms of her skin color, her family, and yes, certain aspects of her heritage. But she doesn't own being Black in the way I personally do. Is that wrong? Don't know. Takes all kinds to make the world go round. But she's not the type I feel we need to point to as inspiration, she's not the type I'd want my kids to emulate, and I fear the kind of world people like her want where we're all just "Americans". I am American, but I'm also a Black American, and I see nothing wrong with that.
-----Original Message----- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Pratt Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 20:23 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fw: Rice's Star Ris experienced racism of any kind?ing Even as Public Sours on Bush J.L. Chestnut just made it onto my list of real heroes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read that quote from her in several sources, but haven't been able to find a link to back it up. It may be erroneously attributed to Condi. I have found numerous references to her saying her family supported Civil Rights' goals, but not its actions. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "g123curious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I like her words describing the Civil Rights movement > and her (lack of) involvement: "I didn't get involved > in any counter-cultural things". > That says it all... Where did you read this? Can you provide a URL or citation? Thanks. Also, the article below is a good summary too. George - - - - - - - - - - http://www.counterpunch.org/chestnut11192005.html Her Father Taught Her Well Condi Rice's Disdain for the Civil Rights Movement By J. L. CHESTNUT, Jr. November 19 - 20, 2005 SPONSORED LINKS Science fiction and fantasy Music genres Genre magazine YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "scifinoir2" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Science fiction and fantasy Music genres Genre magazine --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "scifinoir2" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- "Excuse me while I whip this out." Cleavon Little , "Blazing Saddles" --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "scifinoir2 <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Know an art & music fan? Make a donation in their honor this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/.6dcNC/.VHMAA/Zx0JAA/LRMolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
