Truth is, this would not have happened when we were 500+ members, with about 80 active voices and 100 semi-regular voices. The volume was unwieldy. When yahoo took us out, that changed everything. At first, I planned on rebuilding, but moving out of the states, becoming a mom, and getting critically ill changed my priorities. I really could not moderate, nor did I want to. so, I just let you guys moderate yourselves, and let you know that I was there if things got out of control. But, I trusted you. I began to use your emails as a way to deal with homesickness and sometimes distract me from the pain during the worst of my illness.
So you guys made it what it is. I just let it go where you wanted to take it Now, the "tete a' tete" with Gymfig. After years of not-being moderator, and coping with almost a decade of censorship, but being really hurt by her remarks, and the fear that they were hurting and offending others, I did not know how to handle the situation Gymfig is our sister - an important member of the family. She has been around since the very beginning (2000). I started off trying to wear the moderator hat, but it must have been windy that day, because the hat flew very away. (VERY CORNY - sorry) I've been rather embarrassed about the election conversation and my behavior with her during my other exchange with her in November. We are both two hotheads :) Anyway, thanks for letting me feel a little better about my display of madness. :) Tracey The non-moderator Reece Jennings wrote: > Tracey, moderators wield a lot more influence than we sometimes believe. I > belong to a police group where > debate is squashed if it leads off of police topics. It got so bad that a > splinter group was formed just FOR > off-topic stuff, fun stuff, support stuff, etc. The good thing is that the > splinter group allows some graphics and > reasonable file downloads. I like that we don't because no viruses get > passed... > > I don't know about everybody else, but I used to think twice, and sometimes > agonize about posting non-skiffy > (I learned a new word!) subjects. But as we got to know you, and you us, it > became easier. I think we also > do a good job of monitoring ourselves so we don't get silly (especially me!) > with what we discuss. > > I was especially impressed with your tete a' tete with Amy. You could have > EASILY played the Queen Moderator > card and cut off discussion. But you were surely above that, and I enjoyed > seeing that side of you! :o) > > Trayyyyy-CEEEEEEE! > > > Maurice Jennings > Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? > KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! > Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:56 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married > > Thanks guys. I was just thinking scifinoir was no longer a scifi list, but > a life sharing list. I can not take credit for nurturing it, but I am glad > it happened. I think you should be applauding yourselves. > > Martin wrote: > >> Three cheers for Tracey! >> >> Hip-hip HOORAY! >> >> Hip-hip HOORAY! >> >> Hip-hip HOORAY! >> >> Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > God bless you, Martin. I think we do that for each other. You know, I > >> played football on a >> team in Newark, NJ after I got out of the Air Force. I was primarily >> a defensive safety, and we were one tough team! And you know where >> our strength came from? Each other. >> >> See, when we huddled before each play, we held hands. So much >> strength and support flowed between us... >> >> That's what I feel here, with all of us. >> >> I think it's pretty cool that we started with a shared passion, and >> that has grown into what we have, with the passion still our glue, >> of course. >> >> And kudos to Mama Tracey for nurturing our deviations from the main >> subject, and allowing us to become so close... >> >> Maurice Jennings >> Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? >> KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! >> Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => >> http://www.legacyhomesavers.com <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Martin >> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:55 PM >> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married >> >> Reece, your words give me joy every day, and I'm in sore need of it >> these days. I'm beginning to look at you as a role model. >> >> Reece Jennings <mcjennings124@ <mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> >> yahoo.com> >> wrote: Sigh...I know. I tend to attempt to lighten up potentially >> painful/heavy subjects with sick humor...a gift I developed during >> my cop days...LOL! >> >> And Martin, I know I don't have to say this to you, but I'm sure you >> know my twisted humor is in NO way meant to take anything away from >> the very human and touching parts of your life. In fact, they hit home >> > for me... > >> >> I have a son who was born April 15, 1968. I was preparing to head to >> the Philippines. >> >> He was born David William Jennings. At 8 months, he was adopted, and >> his name was changed. I won't put it here. You never know...well, >> until 1998, I had no idea what his adopted name was, or anything >> about him. Then I stumbled across his mother. >> We had a brief connection in 1967 (what a choice of word!) that lead >> to her pregnancy. >> >> I did a search of his name on the fledgling internet, and 2 names popped >> > up. > >> A VERY unique >> first and last name helped, so I called the Junior name. My son >> answered, and I gently probed until I found out he had no idea that >> I existed. So...I dropped the 'F'-bomb (FATHER) on him. >> >> "I am your biological father." I gave him information about me. He, >> of course, was blown out. >> He said he couldn't talk right then. About 5 hours later I received a >> phone call from a very blunt, intense woman. She grilled me about >> his mother, our meeting, where the mom was from...during the >> conversation...I mean interrogation...I figured that she was his wife. >> It wasn't like she didn't give me clues... >> "What are you to my husband?" was a big one! After about 30 minutes, >> I guess she saw that I wasn't the least bit defensive, I answered >> every painful question she had. So she handed the phone to my son. >> >> We talked, shared information, laughed, and marveled at how parallel >> our lives were. That is the ONLY conversation we have ever had. It >> was summer 1998. I have sent him letters and pictures, and he has >> responded with the same. It turns out that the lady was his wife, and >> she is from Spain. He sent me a wonderful picture of him in his 1st >> Calvary army officer dress blues with her. I also saw his helicopter >> on the internet when he was flying in Iraq. An unmanned drone was >> above his chopper when he flew in to take a bead on a truck carrying >> a mortar crew that had just shelled their headquarters. I heard him >> say on the radio, "Do you want me to Whack this guy?". I was freaked >> for a second. Then I realized he was doing and saying exactly the >> same things I would have said and done! >> >> Well, we've been in touch by email over the past 9 years. I didn't >> find out that his adoptive dad had died of cancer until a year after >> it happened...about 3 years ago now. I used to call his dad to find >> out about him. >> >> I was grateful to find that he had fine adoptive parents, because all >> sons want their mothers, but NEED their fathers to become complete >> men. And my son, with all of the hurt he must be holding inside, is >> indeed a good, complete man. He's an instructor helicopter pilot, 17 >> years in the army. >> He has 2 adopted daughters and a wife he says he could not have made >> it without. >> >> If I could change things, I would have raised him. Long story >> again...I'm glad for email, and that we have what we have. >> >> Maurice Jennings >> Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? >> KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! >> Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho >> <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com <http://www.legacyho >> <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> >> >> _____ >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> >> ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com] On Behalf Of >> Astromancer >> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:24 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com >> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married >> >> LMAO...You, sir, are a sick individual... >> >> Reece Jennings <mcjennings124@ <mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> >> yahoo.com> >> wrote: 80!!! Man, talk about a Blues subject...!!! >> >> 'I married Linda Sue from Toledo >> We was happy until our son was born with two heads. >> >> Now he's a singer, too...Alto and bass!' >> >> I got the two-headed blues... >> >> Maurice Jennings >> Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? >> KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! >> Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho >> <http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com> >> mesavers.com <http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyho >> <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> >> mesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> >> >> _____ >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> >> ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com] On Behalf Of Martin >> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 8:01 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com >> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Twins separated at birth met and married >> >> When I first saw this story, my thoughts immediately went to Howling >> Wolf, the legendary blues singer. Years after his death, two people >> in- Toledo, I believe it was- met, fell in love and planned to marry. >> They got the necessary blood tests well ahead of time, which told >> them that they were half-sister and -brother, through Wolf. Seems >> that he, like many old-time musicians, liked to spread the love >> around, and he had nine children by nine different women in Toledo >> alone. Those kids began a search for more siblings, and came up with, at >> > present, 80 total siblings. > >> >> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote: >> Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:50pm EST >> >> LONDON (Reuters) - A couple discovered after they had married that >> they were twins who had been split up at birth and adopted by >> separate families, according to a member of Britain's House of Lords. >> >> British peer David Alton recounted the story to parliament last month >> to support his argument that artificially conceived children should >> be told who their biological parents are. >> >> Alton said he had heard the story of the separated twins from a High >> Court judge who had dealt with the case. >> >> "This did not involve in vitro fertilization: It involved the normal >> birth of twins who were separated at birth and adopted by separate >> parents," said Alton, an independent member of the Lords. "They were >> never told that they were twins." >> >> "They met later in life and felt an inevitable attraction, and the >> judge had to deal with the consequences of the marriage that they >> entered into and all the issues of their separation," he said. >> >> "I suspect that it will be a matter of litigation in the future if we >> do not make information of this kind available to children who have >> been donor-conceived," he said. >> >> Alton could not immediately be reached for comment and no further >> information was available about the twins or where they were from. >> >> "I think it's a very tragic story for the people involved," said Pam >> Hodgkins, head of a group that helps adults affected by adoption. >> >> "It is a lesson that we need to learn and apply to the situation of >> donor-conceived children," she told Sky News. >> >> "Whilst ... nowadays it would be most unusual for siblings to be >> separated ... the risk of secrecy affecting the lives of people born >> as a result of egg and sperm donation is exactly the same as the >> risks that have affected adopted people in the past," she said. >> >> (Reporting by Adrian Croft; Editing by Stephen Addison) >> http://www.reuters. >> <http://www.reuters. >> <http://www.reuters. >> <http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSEIC17037920080111> >> com/article/newsOne/idUSEIC17037920080111> >> com/article/newsOne/idUSEIC17037920080111> >> com/article/newsOne/idUSEIC17037920080111 >> >> Yahoo! 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