i was saying "yes, dad" to Astro. No, no offense at all! I appreciate your compliment and comments, same for everyone else.
-------------- Original message -------------- From: Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey Keith I am sure that I am probably just missing something here. I didnt really understand your response and I wanted to make sure I had not caused offense. thanks B --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > yes, dad! :) > > thanks, seriously, though > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ditto, Keith...What are you waiting for??? > > > Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Damn Keith. You're a hell of a good writer. I love your insights > and > the skill with which you present them. Have you ever considered > pursuing it further? If so, have you written anything I could see? > > Bravo!!! > > Bosco > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > well, that's the balancing act of being a leader of any kind: > > weighing what you think is right versus what those you serve > think. > > Always keep only your own counsel, and you're an autocrat, > harmful > > to the people. Do whatever is popular, and you're a weakling, not > > helping the people to see what's best for them in times when they > > don't know it themselves. > > > > Maybe I'm a cynic, maybe I distrust authority. But I always think > > of those times in history when the majority (or the most vocal > and > > influential minority) of the population wanted something that > > wasn't right or moral, or simply efficacious in the long run: > when > > whites wanted slavery, then later, Jim Crow. When men didn't want > > women to vote. When Germans actively wanted--or passively agreed > > with--the subjugation of the Jews. When white South Africans > wanted > > their colored countrymen to remain as second class citizens. A > > century from now, perhaps some will look back on a society that > > taxed gays but refused to let them serve in the military equally, > > or enjoy the same domestic rights as the rest of us, and say "If > > only there had been a leader who'd done what was right instead of > > what was popular". After 9-11, this country wanted > blood--anyone's > > blood. I always liken America's mood then to that of a crazed dog > > that snaps at and attacks whomever happens to be near. Bush and > his > > gang poin > > ted us in that direction, then said "This is what they want". And > > all of our leaders--almost every dang one of them with a few > > notable exceptions--went along with that fevered fervor, afraid > to > > buck the will of the people. Well, that's why I have a leader: to > > see things more clearly in times when perhaps I can't, to make > > decisions based on more information and considered thought than I > > have. > > > > If I'm going to have someone lead me, it's because he or she has > > the capacity sometimes to make me better, to see the bigger > picture > > in ways I can't always do. That requires someone with certain > > convictions and basic principles that will guide him or her, that > > won't change with the times or the whim of the public. A leader > > should be a rudder for a ship in a storm (lots of metaphors I > > know!) that can guide us in the right direction. Yes, sometimes > > sticking to a set of beliefs stubbornly can be wrong. Bush is > proof > > of that in the way he's singlemindedly pursued a disastrous > foreign > > policy. But you know, at least I know where Bush stands, and > > that's a good thing because i can then decide that he's not right > > for the job and get him out. I know who and what he is, and I've > > decided he's not right for me. There's a certain honesty and > > courage in his stance, that allows me to see him for what he is > and > > then--fire him. And that's the point: a leader leads by trying to > > get us to go in cert > > ain ways, based on what we want and what he or she thinks is best > > for us. If those two views differ greatly, then perhaps that > leader > > will be sent packing. Look at how McCain is hated for > > ultra-conservatives because he wants a more reasoned approach to > > illegal immigration, and the Bush tax cuts. But despite what it's > > costing him, he still holds to those views. yet at the same time, > > he's trying to modify them somewhat to go along with the people. > A > > balancing act. > > > > But with someone like Romney, who keeps changing to meet the mood > > of the day, how can we ever know whether he's ultimately good or > > bad for us? How will I know that in that one moment when I am > > wrong, and I need him to be right, he won't do the popular thing > > instead of the right thing? > > > > A > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: "maidmarian_thepoet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I may be stepping into it...but what exactly is wrong with a > public > > official supporting the wishes of his constituents? I wish that > my > > officials here really supported my beliefs instead of catering to > > the > > religious right. Of course, you can say that they are supporting > > them---but that's my point. Wasn't he being a true representative > > of > > Mass. voters at that time? Now he is claiming that he could be a > > true > > representative of conservative voters. Isn't that his job? > > > > I am still recalling listening to a "This American Life" episode > in > > which a guy who was pro-choice supported Bush because he didn't > > flip-flop on issues. He admitted that he didn't like any of > Bush's > > stances on issuses, but he voted for him because he didn't > > flip-flop. > > Why on earth should I vote for someone who won't vote my way? > He's > > my > > representative, not a representative of his own convictions. If > he > > can > > change my mind because he believes me wrong, that's one thing. > But > > he > > shouldn't be voting his convictions whilly-nilly. > > > > Ok, I will get off my soapbox now. :-) > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Like i said, an opportunistic flip-flopper. He was pro-choice, > > pro > > immigration (in terms of working something out instead of > sounding > > like > > a Klansman), not averse to taxes as needed (which he calls > "fees", > > but > > same difference). I heard a speech he gave just a few years back > > where > > he explicitly said he didn't want to try and recreate the Reagan > > days. > > Now he's a rabid ultr-conservative nut who evokes Reagan more > than > > some > > of us call on God! > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. > I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. > > You know these things that happen, > That's just the way it's supposed to be. > And I can't help but wonder, > Don't ya know it coulda been me. > > __________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > I am me, said the stranger, and I work for the ones who pay my > fee and that is not you." - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. 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