You guys are not really different than Chris and I.  While we have 
always gone out of our way not to say things that would hurt each other, 
we both can be marathon fighters.  Our circumstances forced us to do 
another way.  We had Kira.  When she was an infant, we would go in 
another room and argue in low tones.  (or at least try to).  But it was 
still good practice with learning not to yell.   Can't say that I have 
mastered it. Then with that horrible situation in Mexico with our lives 
falling apart and both of us getting sick, a couple of things happened.  
We were arguing all the time because of our dire circumstances, she was 
older and harder to keep away from the fray. She could see that I seemed 
to be dying.  She asked me if I was going away sometimes and started 
having nightmares.   I was in so much pain that her normally extremely 
affectionate Mom,  winced  she touched me.  Not a great situation for 
her.  With the situation so bad, we had to do something about what was 
in our control. So we started discussing way to better handle our 
disagreements and to really talk to each other when we were not angry.  
Separating and coming back seemed to be the best way.  Our true nature 
is to come out swinging and win, but in the end you get nothing.  So 
this stepping back approach, while less rewarding in the very short 
term, usually has us talking it out and making up so we can be the 
laughing, teasing, silly and affectionate parents Kira is used to having 
around. 

Sounds like even without a kid around, you guys are working to do the 
same thing.

When are you going to see Jumper? 

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> that's good to know. i unfortunately can argue and debate for hours, 
> literally, if really passionate about something. My wife and I are admittedly 
> both a bit sensitive and stubborn, so we can go for a while. I long ago 
> learned to figure out when it's time to just leave the discussion for a while 
> in order to go somewhere and cool down, then come back and talk. If she's 
> being recalcitrant or even hurtful, I have to make an effort to remind myself 
> she's not intentionally hurting me, and once i can remember that, i can 
> discuss things more rationally. Same with her.
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> I have a really bad temper, which i'm sure is genetically inherited from my 
> birth mom, so I have to be sure not to take stuff personally too quickly.  
> Combine that with my love for talking and my desire to understand all sides 
> of an issue, and whoo boy!  Back when i was home for my mother's funeral, my 
> older brother jumped me about a comment I made about Mom that he felt was 
> disrespectful. That led to all kinds of stuff being aired in a five hour 
> discussion from 1 am to sunrise. At the end, he was amazed that I was still 
> able to discuss and debate with vigor, though dead on my feet.
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> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> We fight now and then. Its rarely serious. It happens with two people 
> who both are right :). One of the reasons I married him, is he does 
> not like prolonged battles nor misunderstandings. I'm the same way, I 
> hope. 
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> When I came home, we talked and made up. We are cool. thanks for 
> asking :)
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>> thanks, that helps a great bit.
>> Yout two cool now?
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>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> Actually, that is why I did it. Chris and I had a fight. When that 
>> happens, we try to walk away and come back together after we cool off. 
>> I needed to kill a few hours, and take my mind off stuff, so I drove up 
>> to the theater. Jumper was about to start, so I chose it. It took my 
>> mind off of stuff. I know you got more serious stuff going on, but it 
>> is just what the doctor ordered. I went with very low expectations so I 
>> enjoyed it and went home to make up with Chris
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>>> i've had several people tell me to stay away from this movie at all costs. 
>>> But I really need a fun time waster to take my mind off some things. Is it 
>>> at least a good popcorn flick Phyllis and I can lose ourselves in for a 
>>> couple of hours without feeling regret?
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>>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>> I saw it. It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be 
>>> a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
>>> mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across like a 
>>> pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series
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>>>> To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers. 
>>>> Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
>>>> when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
>>>> or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
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>>>> ~rave!
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>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal <ravenadal@> wrote:
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>>>>>>> There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
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>>>>> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
>>>>> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
>>>>> using his abilities for good. 
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>>>>> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How 
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>>>>> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if 
>>>>> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
>>>>> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
>>>>> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, 
>>>>> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
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>>>>> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
>>>>> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
>>>>> normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
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