Another HUGE problem with assembling the Enterprise on Earth is that
not only is it on Earth...It's in IOWA. How convenient.
One discussion I had with another guy who runs a movie trailer site
is that TOS people are going to have to swallow a really big pill
with this story. If you've seen "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has
Gone Before", you know that Spock and Kirk really have no history.
Spock was loyal to Pike for many years, and Kirk's best friend was
his helmsman when he took over the ship. Sulu was "Chief
Mathematician" or some position like that. These details are
important, and are basically being ignored.
On Nov 23, 2008, at 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We had a long discussion in the last few weeks about a bunch of
still shots from the movie, but I don't know that anyone was aware
of these new trailers. I certainly wasn't.
I just watched them and they look great, but i have some
questions. JJ Abrams is an amazing action director, and I know the
movie will rock in terms of FX, action, and overall look. I just
hope that the more solid background of what makes Trek "Trek" is
maintained. That is to say, for me, Star Trek has actually never
been about the ships, the battles, the gadgets, the special
effects. Those are icing to the cake of the people and the purpose
of the franchise, which was to explore where humanity might go in
the future, and how we'll bring our better selves to a whole new
galaxy of discovery. I'm the guy who loves "The Search for Spock"
because of its deep exploration of the bonds that made the NCC-1701
crew great (while most think it's a boring flick, preferring the
action of "The Wrath of Khan", or the humour of "The Voyage
Home"). I remember the conversations and emotional reveals as much
as I do the Neck Pinches, Doomsday Machines, and Klingon Battle
Cruise rs. I find the early shows of the first season of the OS,
with their heavy dramatic and emotional content, to be the core of
what made Trek work, moreso than later shows with more fights and
explosions. Trek to me is "To go where no one has gone before", but
it is equally "Because the needs of the *one* outweigh the needs of
the many".
So while I know the film will be quite enjoyable, I'm curious--not
doubtful, 'cause many Trek insiders have "vetted" it--but curious
as to how much of that emotional heart of Trek Abrams can convey,
especially in this odd Early Years take when the crew haven't yet
worked together to form those bonds. And I wonder how he'll go from
this film to any possible sequels? Will we then jump to the
mainstream time of the series, with Kirk in the command chair,
Spock as XO, and the rest? If so, then maybe we look at this reboot
like the Trek movies 2, 3, and 4, which conveyed, respectively,
action, emotion, and humour. In that case, maybe the later films
will explore and grow the emotional depth that is Trek. Don't know.
One final comment. I note that the Enterprise is being built on
Earth in the new flick, but the original canon says it was
assembled in space. I know Abrams didn't want to do that for some
reason, saying they use anti-grav to build it on Earth. Still makes
more sense to me to assemble a space ship--in space! And is it me,
or does the sight of guys using blowtorches or arc welders in the
23rd century just seem--odd? Surely there'd be more sophisticated
ways of assembling vessels than something straight out of a 20th
century shipyard, a way to make the metal flow and meld together
more seamlessly and efficiently than with sparks flying all over
the place? I'd hate to see a warp capable vessel lose a battle or
something because some disgruntled union guy didn't use enough
solder on a weld in a Jeffries Tube or something!
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From: "sincere1906" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Okay. I'm confused. Where is the chatter and talk about this trailer?
True enough, I'm not on this site enough (2 or 3 times a month or so),
which is why I usually do a search thru the archives to get in on any
good convo. About the only thing I could find on the new Trek trailer
released since the 17th was the rebooting of the X-Men franchise
(which
I won't comment on in this post).
So I must have missed the thread where everybody talked bout the new
Trek trailer, what they thought, whether they think this approach will
work, what the purists think, if the rebooting Trek for a new
generation can happen, any secrets they might now about the script, if
Zachary Quinto (Sylar from Heroes) as Spock works or just spooks you
out, etc.
I know I have to be late on the jump here, but here goes anyway:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek /
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmJO3ppLBsk
