Great commentary!  Pleasure to have you back in our universe, Black 
Galactus(you should have sent your (black) herald to prepare us for your long 
awaited uncloaking)!

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "sincere1906" <sincere1...@...> wrote:
>
> Okay it's 4am, I saw the new Trek movie about 8 hours ago and am just getting 
> in after a night of debauchery. So I might be writing this on a Red Stripe 
> buzz, but here goes...
> 
> S P O I L E R S ! ! ! 
> 
> I liked the movie. As a movie, it was good. The plot was decent. There was 
> well-paced excitement, humor, etc. The cast was relatable. I thought everyone 
> did a great job playing their roles--even down to Chekhov. So as a movie, 
> good. I give it 3 stars out of four. 
> 
> The larger question, what I suppose matters the most on a group like this, is 
> was it good Trek?
> 
> On this, I'm truly torn.
> 
> First off, I knew they said get ready to forget everything you know about 
> Trek, but damn...I didn't know they were this serious! Thanks to that Romulan 
> ship coming through a black hole and killing Kirk's father, the timeline that 
> we know from that point on has been severed. The Butterfly effect has created 
> a host of new phenomenon--right down to a love affar between Uhuru and 
> Spock--which never seemed to exist before. This was a bold and daring move. 
> The writers of this new Trek world have an entire alternate reality on their 
> hands. They can do anything. And with Vulcans reduced to a virtual minor 
> colony the entire course of the Federation could be altered, not to mention 
> the balance of power in the Alpha Quadrant. They should call this "Ultimate 
> Star Trek!" There's a sense of loss here knowing that the Trek reality that 
> I've long called home no longer exists (or exists in some other timeline). 
> For all we know future figures like Picard might never have been born. For 
> the first time I can recall, we have a Trek spin off that cannot fit into the 
> larger Trek universe. That will take some getting used to.
> 
> Second, where a part of me is concerned, is I'm trying to figure out where 
> this new story fits into Roddenberry's vision. Even with all its faults, the 
> original Trek world was one that took radical positions--a Russian main 
> character, a black main character, etc. I don't see this Trek taking any such 
> bold moves. I don't see a vision here, even as we stand in the midst of a 
> time almost as socially and politically challenging as the 1960s. Nothing 
> illustrated this more than seeing product placement ads for Nokia, Budweiser 
> and Jack Daniels. Pardon me for using a cross-sci-fi swear word, but "what 
> the frack!?!" Earth endures eugenics wars, a nuclear holocaust, a post-atomic 
> court of horrors, new regional powers (the Northern Alliance, etc), and 
> somehow Nokia emerges unscathed!?!? The Trek world I knew seemed to always 
> posit that humanity had come to the verge of destroying itself, and upon 
> First Contact, from the ashes of the old world they built a new 
> one--eliminating poverty, war, hunger, disease and systems that move far 
> beyond capitalism and socialism. In this new Trek reality, I wouldn't be 
> surprised if Kirk had a credit card! Trek has often been faulted at being 
> overly utopian in the past, which I agreed could obscure reality. But this 
> Trek has characters so much like us, I don't understand how they can possibly 
> be enlightened. Normally Trek folks look back on our era the way we would at 
> someone stepped out of the 12th century. Can't see them however debating the 
> philosophical merits of the prime directive.
> 
> My great fear is that this spawns a whole Trek series that won't have some 
> universal appeal because they adhere to any dynamic set of principles, but a 
> Trek universe where things get blow'd up real good and the movie crowd can 
> clap on cue. Too early to make that judgment before the next film, so we'll 
> just have to wait and see...
> 
> MHO
> 
> Sin/Black Galactus
>


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