I LOVED that Archer's dog is scattered in a transporter stream
somewhere.
But, uh, DS9...yeah, uhm... about that...
Given this timeline? DS9 pretty much stays a Cardassian station. If
the Federation DOES take it over? (Remember my theory on no Data and
Klingons not checking for us) -- it's probably Captain RIKER that
runs the joint.
On May 12, 2009, at 9:31 PM, <wlro...@aol.com> wrote:
Romulan ale...I have to say that I went to see it. I was surprise
that it was good. The only problem that I had with it was that the
relationship that they felt that had to interject with Spock.
Seeing the flow of the movie I am glad that they did not use an
older Kirk in this movie. It would not have made any sense. I like
the nod they gave to Captain Archer in the movie. Great movie now
enough with the Enterprise bring me a movie with DS9. Oh Mr.
Baxter--hurry with the Ale. Where I am from in Georgia it is illegal.
--Lavender
From: Martin Baxter
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:32 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
I like the cut of your jib, Lavendar. Can I bring anything?
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Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
Date : Mon, 11 May 2009 01:00:13 -0400
From : <wlro...@aol.com>
To : <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com>
I hope to see this tomorrow, which would be today when this email
is posted.
I too am a core trekkie. I am not saying that I am the one that is
dressed
in uniform as I am writing this. I have always felt that a movie
needs to
bring in a new crowd but with doing that not to loose the old one.
We are
the ones that are buying the product. I find it unlikely that we
will see
any newbie's at conventions this year based on this movie. I
thought that it
was cannon that the Vulcan's were a major player in Trek history.
If this is
not the case then who were? I would love a mention of TPol in this.
I mean
she might would have been the only person to really do a cross over
without
a time travel being involved. When I see this, I hope I get the
feeling
that he has done justice to the series. If not--I am going to Ace
Hardware
and get a deflector dish. Then I am going to bill a multiplexing
beaking to
put on top of it to contact the Borg to get rid of JJ Abrams and
his crew.
Then I going to invite Q over for dinner to try to convince him to
fix this
whole thing. Any one up for dinner?
--Lavender
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From: "sincere1906"
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 4:24 AM
To:
Subject: [scifinoir2] New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*
> Okay it's 4am, I saw the new Trek movie about 8 hours ago and am
just
> getting in after a night of debauchery. So I might be writing
this on a
> Red Stripe buzz, but here goes...
>
> S P O I L E R S ! ! !
>
> I liked the movie. As a movie, it was good. The plot was decent.
There was
> well-paced excitement, humor, etc. The cast was relatable. I thought
> everyone did a great job playing their roles--even down to
Chekhov. So as
> a movie, good. I give it 3 stars out of four.
>
> The larger question, what I suppose matters the most on a group
like this,
> is was it good Trek?
>
> On this, I'm truly torn.
>
> First off, I knew they said get ready to forget everything you
know about
> Trek, but damn...I didn't know they were this serious! Thanks to
that
> Romulan ship coming through a black hole and killing Kirk's
father, the
> timeline that we know from that point on has been severed. The
Butterfly
> effect has created a host of new phenomenon--right down to a love
affar
> between Uhuru and Spock--which never seemed to exist before. This
was a
> bold and daring move. The writers of this new Trek world have an
entire
> alternate reality on their hands. They can do anything. And with
Vulcans
> reduced to a virtual minor colony the entire course of the
Federation
> could be altered, not to mention the balance of power in the Alpha
> Quadrant. They should call this "Ultimate Star Trek!" There's a
sense of
> loss here knowing that the Trek reality that I've long called
home no
> longer exists (or exists in some other timeline). For all we know
future
> figures like Picard might never have been born. For the first
time I can
> recall, we have a Trek spin off that cannot fit into the larger Trek
> universe. That will take some getting used to.
>
> Second, where a part of me is concerned, is I'm trying to figure
out where
> this new story fits into Roddenberry's vision. Even with all its
faults,
> the original Trek world was one that took radical positions--a
Russian
> main character, a black main character, etc. I don't see this
Trek taking
> any such bold moves. I don't see a vision here, even as we stand
in the
> midst of a time almost as socially and politically challenging as
the
> 1960s. Nothing illustrated this more than seeing product
placement ads for
> Nokia, Budweiser and Jack Daniels. Pardon me for using a cross-
sci-fi
> swear word, but "what the frack!?!" Earth endures eugenics wars,
a nuclear
> holocaust, a post-atomic court of horrors, new regional powers (the
> Northern Alliance, etc), and somehow Nokia emerges unscathed!?!?
The Trek
> world I knew seemed to always posit that humanity had come to the
verge of
> destroying itself, and upon First Contact, from the ashes of the
old world
> they built a new one--eliminating poverty, war, hunger, disease and
> systems that move far beyond capitalism and socialism. In this
new Trek
> reality, I wouldn't be surprised if Kirk had a credit card! Trek
has often
> been faulted at being overly utopian in the past, which I agreed
could
> obscure reality. But this Trek has characters so much like us, I
don't
> understand how they can possibly be enlightened. Normally Trek
folks look
> back on our era the way we would at someone stepped out of the 12th
> century. Can't see them however debating the philosophical merits
of the
> prime directive.
>
> My great fear is that this spawns a whole Trek series that won't
have some
> universal appeal because they adhere to any dynamic set of
principles, but
> a Trek universe where things get blow'd up real good and the
movie crowd
> can clap on cue. Too early to make that judgment before the next
film, so
> we'll just have to wait and see...
>
> MHO
>
> Sin/Black Galactus
>
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