Yes but you know no one wearing an opposition t-shirt let alone a gun was allowed within a mile of Bush when he was president.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > That frightens me no end. When Cindy Sheehan used to park outside Bush's > Crawford ranch and stage protests, the Right was all over her. They said she > was nuts, said she was stirring up trouble, often spoke of the dangerous > climate she was creating. Yet the silence on people wearing guns near Obama > is deafening. I know it's a state's right thing, but shouldn't there be a way > to modify laws where people can't carry guns within a certain distance of the > President? Or is there already such a provision in state laws that require > these nuts to keep their distance? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Baxter" <truthseeker...@...> > To: "SciFiNoir2" <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:50:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar > During Speech > > > > > > > (standing ovation) > > I've talked about the nutjobs who carried guns at the Obama healthcare event > awhile back. One of the still-stunning things about that was the sheer number > of people who watched that and, knowing that there have been numerous death > threats against the President, that it was sheer idiocy to carry guns to such > an event, still saw nothing wrong with it. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody > hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: keithbjohn...@... > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:04:17 +0000 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar > During Speech > > > > > > > I am reminded of the history of King Henry II and his battles with the > Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas Becket. Frustrated with Becket's resistance > to his attempt to gain more control over the Church, Henry was said to have > exclaimed one day "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?!" (The real > history suggests he said something much less dramatically pithy, something > along the lines of "What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and > brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful > contempt by a low-born cleric?") > > Whatever his exact words, Henry's statement was interpreted by several of his > knights as a desire to have Becket eliminated, and later, four of them > murdered the archbishop most violently, literally cutting off the top of his > head with their swords, and scattering his brains along the pavement. > > As I listen to senators and congressmen, former governors and "journalists", > parents, teachers, and preachers bewail and bemoan the danger of Obama, I > think of that event. We already have people wearing sidearms around Obama, > and parents so stupid they believe he's subliminally programming their kids. > How much more will it take for some overzealous fool to see and hear in the > words and actions of Boehner and others a command to rid them of this > President? And who will claim responsibility for creating the climate that > led to such a tragic attempt? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "daikaiju66" <daikaij...@...> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:22:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar During > Speech > > > > > According to some sources he made some veiled statements about disrupting or > making a scene during the President's speech on Labor Day. If this is the > case he needs to be censured. This stuff definitely needs to end. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@> wrote: > > > > > > (standing ovation) > > > > And, just to beat the band, he was lying himself. Section 246 of the bill > > clearly states that illegal aliens would NOT be covered under the program > > in any way. And he apologized afterward, ONLY because of his outburst. He > > still lies in his insistence that he was right in his words. I will drop > > him a line the minute I'm done here. > > > > And I'll throw in "You might want to read the bill.) > > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > From: KeithBJohnson@ > > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:17:03 +0000 > > Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Congressman Joe Wilson Calls Obama Liar During > > Speech > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > I don't usually get into the "write this person or call that one" thing, > > but you know sometimes enough is enough. For weeks--months--we've listened > > to the Right call Obama a terrorist, socialist, and even (thank you Mr. > > Beck) a racist. He's been labeled Nazi, "Christian" ministers are praying > > for his death, and parents lost their minds trying to deny their kids the > > option to listen to him give a fairly safe, canned "Stay in school and > > study hard speech". (Oddly enough, I didn't see any kiddies roaming around > > today burning down buildings, quoting Marx, or kissing the Koran). > > > > Obama has been subjected to more hatred, lies, and vitriol than i can > > remember in my life, and it's not just of the political type. We've had > > guys standing outside buildings where he's located, wearing sidearms, > > something that chills me to my bones. Small wonder that the Secret Service > > has given him more protection than any Prez in history. I hear he has four > > times as many death threats as is "normal" for a President. And of course, > > the health care debate has been a prime example of the hatred and lies > > surrounding him, with charges of "death panels", socialism, government > > takeovers, etc., running rampant. It's been disgusting, it's been > > infuriating, it's been maddening. But I've tried to stay the course, to > > wade and cut through the garbage of the Right as I try to search for the > > truth. I've tried to stay above the stench of it all. > > > > But tonight, enough was enough. During Obama's speech, South Carolina > > representative Joe Wilson clearly yells "you lie!" at the President's > > assertion that illegal immigrants won't be covered under his health care > > plan. > > > > View the video and see the picture of him here: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/09/gop-rep-wilson-yells-out_n_281480.html > > > > > > My feelings about that aside--my feelings about *any* of the policies being > > discussed aside--this moment sickened me. Have we come so far, has the > > Right become so emboldened, that it's okay to call the President a liar on > > television?? It's okay that an image beamed around the world shows > > disrespect for our duly elected leader, a man trying to do something to > > help the dispossessed? Is the office so contemptible now that you don't > > even respect it, if not the man? I've seen some things during Obama's rise, > > but this is going too far. In one statement, Wilson has crystalized and > > symbolized all the ignorance, hatred, disrespect, danger, foolishness, and > > intolerance that has characterized this debate. This, then, is the fruition > > and completion of Palin, still talking death panels today. This is the > > result of Glen Beck's charges of racism and witch hunts against good men. > > > > This then, is the depth to which some in America have fallen, and it has > > got to stop. This is no longer irritating, it's dangerous. In an > > environment where people wear sidearms around the President and feel > > empowered to call him a liar to his face, something is very, very > > wrong--and we have to take a step to stop it. > > > > I'm taking a small step tonight. I am trying to e-mail and call Joe Wilson > > to express my disgust and displeasure at what he's done. I say "trying" > > because all communication methods are currently busy. Phone lies busy, > > website, slow. But I provide the below links and ask you to do the same. > > And then, maybe we need to get John Boehner's contact info as well and let > > him know how disgusting this is. > > > > It's time to draw a line in the sand of this foolishness and hate. Let's > > start the line in S.C. Contact info for Wilson is below: > > > > Send an e-mail to him here: http://www.house.gov/formwilson/IMA/issue.htm > > > > Contact info (all numbers have been busy since I've tried them tonight) > > > > The Midlands' Office ⢠1700 Sunset Blcd (US 378), Suite 1 ⢠West > > Columbia, SC 29169 ⢠Phone: (803) 939-0041 ⢠Fax: (803) 939-0078 > > > > The Lowcountry Office ⢠903 Port Republic Street ⢠Beaufort, SC 29902 > > ⢠Phone: (843) 521-2530 ⢠Fax: (843) 521-2535 > > > > Washington Office ⢠212 Cannon House Office Building ⢠Washington, DC > > 20515 ⢠Phone: (202) 225-2452 ⢠Fax: (202) 225-2455 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. > > http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009 > > > > > > > > > > > > Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what youâre up to on > Facebook. 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