People should complain every time its used when they have the screeners in Hollywood. It would fall out of fashion quickly.
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Omari Confer <clockwork...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yeah......it is kinda interesting how they want to simulate the documentary > style. Now you see the steady shake shot like in Cloverfield or > Quarantine... > > Interesting world we watch in.. > > c w m > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Mr. Worf <hellomahog...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> The funny thing about shaky camera is that is totally not necessary. It is >> an artificial effect that they use. 90% of the movies are made with >> steadycam (or dolley trucks) technology. There isn't any shaking of the >> camera because it uses counter weights to dampen movement. They often will >> add in the shakiness back into the film in the editing process. Crazy huh? >> >> The editor will add in a rotation and speed of the shaking with X number >> of degrees. That's why it is so hard to look at visually because it is a >> special effect and the movement of the artificial camera lens is contrary to >> the movement on the screen. >> >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Omari Confer <clockwork...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Blair Witch was clever....thus does not hold up over time. Its a one time >>> thing that puts people in seats and becomes more of a sign post in the road >>> to cinematic progression. >>> >>> The cleverness has now been co-opeted and you see the shaky camera >>> everywhere.... >>> >>> There is nothing old school about Blair Witch. You want the audience to >>> think not to guess... >>> >>> Purposeful suspense is golden.. done by many aand mastered by few >>> >>> Nothing beats simple solid storytelling.... >>> >>> >>> >>> c w m >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Keith Johnson < >>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But see, I liked Blair Witch, and I don't think it fits the mold we're >>>> discussing. I have no problems with inexpensive filmmaking. I salute >>>> someone >>>> who can turn a profit. But Blair Witch was cleverly done; indeed, it's the >>>> exact opposite of the CGI-porn, torture-porn, overactive camera-porn we're >>>> discussing. It's an old school film in that the viewer has to use >>>> imagination to fill in the blanks--it's not all painted on screen for us. >>>> No, what I'm decrying is stuff like Transformers, G.I. Joe, even the over >>>> active Star Trek. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Omari Confer" <clockwork...@gmail.com> >>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:01:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada >>>> Eastern >>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Why pay for a great story when CGI is less expensive? >>>> >>>> (why is Uwe Boll still working) >>>> >>>> Short term....flash bulbs and scarlet liquid is the thing.. >>>> >>>> Long term....content is king.. >>>> >>>> >>>> You make your reputation in the long term but you make the money in the >>>> short term. >>>> >>>> For every Merchant Ivory film...you have to make a Blair Witch... >>>> >>>> c w m >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Keith Johnson < >>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I agree about Van Helsing. But I always find myself wondering: do we >>>>> *have* to produce CGI/FX/action heavy films over sturdy writing and acting >>>>> to get younger people to watch? I guess that tail-wagging-dog question is >>>>> brought up with every new generation, but I often feel that if we give >>>>> people good quality, they'll appreciate it and learn to like it. >>>>> The method of just giving up is like saying there's no use to cook a >>>>> good hamburger or steak anymore, because everyone's palette is ruined by >>>>> McDonalds and places like that. Can't people still appreciate a superior >>>>> burger when one's given to them? >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Omari Confer" <clockwork...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:26:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada >>>>> Eastern >>>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Van Helsing, along with all genre work these days is designed for teens >>>>> that have never seen a classic horror movie. Never seen Lon chaney or >>>>> Frankenstein fight Dracula... >>>>> >>>>> In this post Matrix age, things have to be visually appealing before >>>>> anything else......forget that we just watched Dances with Wolves.....in >>>>> Blue D. >>>>> >>>>> Van Helsing is just carmel popcorn made of a corn substitute.... >>>>> >>>>> The movie was born for cable. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Keith Johnson < >>>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I had to chuckle when reading about "Van Helsing". I despise the >>>>>> movie. I was critiquing it the whole time phyllis and I watched it in the >>>>>> theatre: the anachronistic rock soundtrack, the bad dialogue, Kate >>>>>> Beckinsdales (who I think is hot as hell) with that horrible >>>>>> on-again-off-again accent, the bad CGI, the stupid characters, the >>>>>> horrible >>>>>> camera work. It's the movie that to me showcases the rather empty talent >>>>>> the >>>>>> director is, as he'd put out barely passable fare with the Mummy movies >>>>>> Funny thing is, my older brother--a big scifi fan himself--loves Van >>>>>> Helsing. He is always trying to convince me that I'm too hard on it, and >>>>>> make me change my opinion. He thinks I'm a bit of a hard ass in the way I >>>>>> review and critique movies, saying I miss the fact that every movie has >>>>>> things in it to like. We have different tastes. He tends to like things >>>>>> that >>>>>> are a bit more fluff, fun, and visually striking. While I like those >>>>>> things, >>>>>> i tend to focus more on good acting and realistic plots. For example, he >>>>>> doesn't like the darker themes in the comic and animation worlds, while I >>>>>> love them. At any rate, he's on me all the time about "Van Helsing", even >>>>>> getting irritated when I repeat for the eleventy millionth time that I >>>>>> hate >>>>>> it. >>>>>> And don't get me started on his feelings about my indifference towards >>>>>> "The Fifth Element"! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> >>>>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 4:41:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada >>>>>> Eastern >>>>>> Subject: [scifinoir2] BBC America brings back Van Helsing in Demons >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Though I still haven't forgiven the great Dr. Abraham Van Helsing >>>>>> for allowing that awful movie with Hugh Jackman to be made about him -- >>>>>> or >>>>>> for not showing up and killing the entire cast of the *Twilight* -- >>>>>> I'm excited to catch his descendants on the new British import, * >>>>>> Demons*. >>>>>> >>>>>> A new horror series from the writers of past British hits *Hex* and * >>>>>> Merlin*, >>>>>> *Demons*<http://www.bbcamerica.com/video/index.jsp?bclid=27610373001&bctid=55969482001>features >>>>>> Philip Glenister ( >>>>>> *Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes*) as cold, stern American Rupert >>>>>> Galvin. The yank must recruit the last descendant of Van Helsing to join >>>>>> forces with him commit to life battling monsters -- before those monsters >>>>>> kill him. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Demons* unveils a world just out of humans' sight -- full of >>>>>> vampires and other inhumans. (Insert joke about politicians here.) Luke >>>>>> Rutherford (Christian Cooke) is the "everykid" teenager forced to come to >>>>>> terms with the harsh reality that he's the direct descendant of the >>>>>> vampire-hunting Van Helsing. >>>>>> >>>>>> To train Luke, Galvin calls on the beautiful, haunted Mina Harker (Zoe >>>>>> Tapper), a blind concert pianist and authority on the beasts preying on >>>>>> humanity. The creepy Father Simeon (Richard Wilson) is Luke's other >>>>>> teacher >>>>>> on the lore behind his enemies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking at the pilot, I do wish the hero was a little older as I don't >>>>>> want to see "Jim Henson's Van Helsing Babies." But, I'll give it a shot. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Demons* premieres Saturday, January 2, 10:00 p.m. on BBC America. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/12/20/bbc-america-brings-back-van-helsing-in-demons/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> READ MY BLOG >>>>> http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com >>>>> STRING THEORY >>>>> http://stringtheory.podbean.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> READ MY BLOG >>>> http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com >>>> STRING THEORY >>>> http://stringtheory.podbean.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> READ MY BLOG >>> http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com >>> STRING THEORY >>> http://stringtheory.podbean.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! >> Mahogany at: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >> >> > > > -- > READ MY BLOG > http://centralheatingblog.blogspot.com > STRING THEORY > http://stringtheory.podbean.com > > > > > -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! 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