This is inspired casting.  Jackie Earle Haley can be self-effacing and even 
sweet-natured and you can believe this monster resides within him.  Haley looks 
like a Herb Trimpe character.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@...> wrote:
>
> How about Jackie Earle Haley?
> 
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith <daikaij...@...> wrote:
> 
> > Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some
> > fighting skills.
> >
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the update. Though "snarky", isn't Banner still frail and weak
> > looking?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "B Smith" <daikaiju66@>
> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM
> > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers"
> > Flick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time.
> > Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice
> > exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but
> > unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped.
> > >
> > > Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could be
> > awesome.
> > >
> > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk.
> > What's up with Banner's behaviour?
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxter7@>
> > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers"
> > Flick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Keith, if they want "flavor-of-the-week", Michael Cera would be a great
> > fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be written, IMO, the
> > way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the Hulk were
> > separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind games
> > with everyone around him.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ >
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor
> > who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome for
> > Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean intensity
> > was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. I
> > think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than the
> > "puny Banner" we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, and
> > notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time.
> > > >
> > > > Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the whiny
> > brother on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but that's
> > the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if he's
> > never seen the sun or the inside of a gym.
> > > >
> > > > ************************************************
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Daryle Lockhart" < daryle@ >
> > > >
> > > > So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. Which
> > is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me.
> > > >
> > > > *************************************************
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep
> > Responds
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in
> > 2012's "The Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on Sunday.
> > > >
> > > > Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the
> > decision in a statement to HitFix .
> > > >
> > > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton
> > > >
> > > > "We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray the
> > title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige told the site. "Our
> > decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted
> > in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative
> > spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands players
> > who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris H,
> > Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to
> > announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate
> > about the iconic role in the coming weeks."
> > > >
> > > > The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars
> > Robert Downey Jr. (" Iron Man "), Chris Hemsworth ("Thor), Chris Evans
> > ("Captain America: The First Avenger"), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury),
> > Scarlett Johansson (" Iron Man 2's" Black Widow), who are expected to
> > reprise their superhero roles in team-up film "The Avengers."
> > > >
> > > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From â€ËÅ" The Incredible Hulk 
> > > > ’
> > > >
> > > > A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday,
> > calling it "purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client had been
> > in discussions to return to the role.
> > > >
> > > > "This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully
> > misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light,"
> > the rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me
> > and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The
> > Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with
> > the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the convention.
> > When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very
> > excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss Whedon to
> > discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by
> > Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of
> > being a part of the ensemble cast."
> > > >
> > > > However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week.
> > > >
> > > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi & Beyond !
> > > >
> > > > "Marvel subsequently made him a financial offer to be in the film and
> > both sides started negotiating in good faith," he told Hitfix. "This past
> > Wednesday, after several weeks of civil, uncontentious discussions, but
> > before we had come to terms on a deal, a representative from Marvel called
> > to say they had decided to go in another direction with the part. This
> > seemed to us to be a financial decision but, whatever the case, it is
> > completely their prerogative, and we accepted their decision with no hard
> > feelings... We know a lot of fans have voiced their public disappointment
> > with this result, but this is no excuse for Feige's mean spirited,
> > accusatory comments. Counter to what Kevin implies here, Edward was looking
> > forward to the opportunity to work with Joss and the other actors in the
> > Avengers cast, many of whom are personal friends of his. Feige's statement
> > is unprofessional, disingenuous and clearly defamatory. Mr. Norton talent,
> > tireless work ethic and professional integrity deserve more respect, and so
> > do Marvel's fans."
> > > >
> > > > Norton played the role of Bruce Banner and his alter-ego, the
> > Incredible Hulk , in 2008's " The Incredible Hulk ," a reboot/follow-up to
> > 2003's "The Hulk ," which starred Eric Bana in the title role. Reports of a
> > feud between the actor and the studio emerged along with the film, however,
> > with Norton finally issuing a statement to Entertainment Weekly to address
> > the rumors.
> > > >
> > > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Spectacular Superheroes
> > > >
> > > > "Every good movie gets forged through collaboration, and different
> > ideas among people who are all committed and respect the validity of each
> > other's opinions is the heart of filmmaking," he told the mag in April 2008.
> > "Regrettably, our healthy process, which is and should be a private matter,
> > was misrepresented publicly as a 'dispute,' seized on by people looking for
> > a good story, and has been distorted to such a degree that it risks
> > distracting from the film itself."
> > > >
> > > > With Marvel hosting panels at the San Diego Comic-Con International
> > later this month, news on who will replace Norton - and perhaps further
> > casting information - seems likely to emerge in the weeks to come.
> > > > Copyright 2010 by NBC Universal, Inc . All rights reserved.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
> > hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> > > >
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