You live in Austin? Surprised it hasn't reached there yet. It came to Atlanta last weekend. I want to catch it before it's gone. I'll mix it with a standard H'Wood movie for contrast this weekend; probably "The Karate Kid" for simple fun, then delay "Inception" until next weekend.
----- Original Message ----- From: "B Smith" <daikaij...@yahoo.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:26:23 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick Ruffalo might be a good choice. He and Downey were great together in Zodiac. I plan on seeing Winter's Bone too but our arthouse still isn't showing it. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > Not a bad choice at all, but I think they missed a big one with the chance to > use Jackie Earle or David Tennant. Back we go to trying to get something > approaching a name actor (Ruffalo is well known in indie film and rom-com > circles, and appeals to women) instead of the best actor. Not a thing at all > against Ruffalo, but Lord I get tired of always watching the same old people. > One of the reasons I seek out true indie and good foreign films is that I get > to see fresh faces without all this hoopla attached to them. I didn't > recognize a single actor in "The Secret in Their Eyes", which helped me > really get into the film. This weekend I'll be checking out "Winter's Bone", > which also doesn't have any name stars or A-Listers, and I'm really psyched > about that opportunity to really get lost in a movie. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelwyn" <ravena...@...> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:45:10 AM > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick > > > > > > > IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter <martinbaxter7@> wrote: > > > > You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf <HelloMahogany@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > How about Jackie Earle Haley? > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith <daikaiju66@> wrote: > > > > > >> Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up some > > >> fighting skills. > > >> > > >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Thanks for the update. Though "snarky", isn't Banner still frail and > > >> weak looking? > > >> > > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > From: "B Smith" <daikaiju66@> > > >> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM > > >> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" > > >> Flick > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long time. > > >> Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some nice > > >> exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but > > >> unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. > > >> > > > >> > Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand could > > >> > be > > >> awesome. > > >> > > > >> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow Hulk. > > >> What's up with Banner's behaviour? > > >> > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxter7@> > > >> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM > > >> > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for > > >> > > "Avengers" > > >> Flick > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Keith, if they want "flavor-of-the-week", Michael Cera would be a > > >> great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be > > >> written, > > >> IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and the > > >> Hulk > > >> were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played mind > > >> games with everyone around him. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an actor > > >> who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and handsome > > >> for > > >> Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean > > >> intensity > > >> was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce Banner. > > >> I > > >> think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist than > > >> the > > >> "puny Banner" we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right man, > > >> and > > >> notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the time. > > >> > > > > >> > > Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the > > >> > > whiny > > >> brother on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but > > >> that's > > >> the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as if > > >> he's > > >> never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. > > >> > > > > >> > > ************************************************ > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > > From: "Daryle Lockhart" < daryle@ > > > >> > > > > >> > > So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. > > >> > > Which > > >> is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. > > >> > > > > >> > > ************************************************* > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep > > >> Responds > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk in > > >> 2012's "The Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on > > >> Sunday. > > >> > > > > >> > > Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the > > >> decision in a statement to HitFix . > > >> > > > > >> > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton > > >> > > > > >> > > "We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to portray > > >> > > the > > >> title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige told the site. "Our > > >> decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead > > >> rooted > > >> in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative > > >> spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands > > >> players > > >> who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, Chris > > >> H, > > >> Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are looking to > > >> announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is passionate > > >> about the iconic role in the coming weeks." > > >> > > > > >> > > The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel stars > > >> Robert Downey Jr. (" Iron Man "), Chris Hemsworth ("Thor), Chris Evans > > >> ("Captain America: The First Avenger"), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick Fury), > > >> Scarlett Johansson (" Iron Man 2's" Black Widow), who are expected to > > >> reprise their superhero roles in team-up film "The Avengers." > > >> > > > > >> > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From â€ËÅ" The Incredible Hulk > > >> > > ’ > > >> > > > > >> > > A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, > > >> calling it "purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client had > > >> been > > >> in discussions to return to the role. > > >> > > > > >> > > "This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a > > >> > > purposefully > > >> misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative > > >> light," > > >> the rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called > > >> me > > >> and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in 'The > > >> Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage > > >> with > > >> the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the > > >> convention. > > >> When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very > > >> excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss > > >> Whedon to > > >> discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed > > >> by > > >> Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of > > >> being a part of the ensemble cast." > > >> > > > > >> > > However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last week. > > >> > > > > >> > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi & Beyond ! > > >> > > > > >> > > "Marvel subsequently made him a financial offer to be in the film > > >> > > and > > >> both sides started negotiating in good faith," he told Hitfix. "This > > >> past > > >> Wednesday, after several weeks of civil, uncontentious discussions, but > > >> before we had come to terms on a deal, a representative from Marvel > > >> called > > >> to say they had decided to go in another direction with the part. This > > >> seemed to us to be a financial decision but, whatever the case, it is > > >> completely their prerogative, and we accepted their decision with no > > >> hard > > >> feelings... We know a lot of fans have voiced their public > > >> disappointment > > >> with this result, but this is no excuse for Feige's mean spirited, > > >> accusatory comments. Counter to what Kevin implies here, Edward was > > >> looking > > >> forward to the opportunity to work with Joss and the other actors in the > > >> Avengers cast, many of whom are personal friends of his. Feige's > > >> statement > > >> is unprofessional, disingenuous and clearly defamatory. Mr. Norton > > >> talent, > > >> tireless work ethic and professional integrity deserve more respect, and > > >> so > > >> do Marvel's fans." > > >> > > > > >> > > Norton played the role of Bruce Banner and his alter-ego, the > > >> Incredible Hulk , in 2008's " The Incredible Hulk ," a reboot/follow-up > > >> to > > >> 2003's "The Hulk ," which starred Eric Bana in the title role. Reports > > >> of a > > >> feud between the actor and the studio emerged along with the film, > > >> however, > > >> with Norton finally issuing a statement to Entertainment Weekly to > > >> address > > >> the rumors. > > >> > > > > >> > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Spectacular Superheroes > > >> > > > > >> > > "Every good movie gets forged through collaboration, and different > > >> ideas among people who are all committed and respect the validity of > > >> each > > >> other's opinions is the heart of filmmaking," he told the mag in April > > >> 2008. > > >> "Regrettably, our healthy process, which is and should be a private > > >> matter, > > >> was misrepresented publicly as a 'dispute,' seized on by people looking > > >> for > > >> a good story, and has been distorted to such a degree that it risks > > >> distracting from the film itself." > > >> > > > > >> > > With Marvel hosting panels at the San Diego Comic-Con International > > >> later this month, news on who will replace Norton - and perhaps further > > >> casting information - seems likely to emerge in the weeks to come. > > >> > > Copyright 2010 by NBC Universal, Inc . All rights reserved. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the > > >> > > bloody > > >> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > >> > > > > >> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------ > > >> > > >> > > >> Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > >> > > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo > > >> ! > > >> Groups Links > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > > > Mahogany at: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell > > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > >
