We moved here 5 years ago for a job transfer and we like it a lot. We have two great arthouse theaters, The Fleur which is practically around the corner from my house and the Varsity. The Fleur has been playing The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo to huge crowds on one of it's screens so it's pushed the schedule back. TGWTDT, Harry Brown and The Secret In Their Eyes just finished multi-week runs so hopefully we'll get Winter's Bone in the next week or so.
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > Oh, okay, guess that explains it? I don't know much about Des Moines. How'd > you end up there? > Atlanta is a very cool city in terms of getting cool cultural things. Very > vibrant indie, African-American, Jewish, female, and gay scenes mean a lot of > great plays and film festivals come this way. > I can remember seeing films like "Like Water for Chocolate", "Blue Velvet", > and "Robocop" at indie theatres here, back before they had mainstream > releases. All were actually treated as indie films on first release. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B Smith" <daikaij...@...> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:22:18 PM > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" Flick > > > > > > > I'm in Des Moines. Neither of the local arthouse theaters is showing it. > Maybe next week. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > You live in Austin? Surprised it hasn't reached there yet. It came to > > Atlanta last weekend. I want to catch it before it's gone. I'll mix it with > > a standard H'Wood movie for contrast this weekend; probably "The Karate > > Kid" for simple fun, then delay "Inception" until next weekend. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "B Smith" <daikaiju66@> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:26:23 PM > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" > > Flick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ruffalo might be a good choice. He and Downey were great together in > > Zodiac. > > > > I plan on seeing Winter's Bone too but our arthouse still isn't showing it. > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > > > Not a bad choice at all, but I think they missed a big one with the > > > chance to use Jackie Earle or David Tennant. Back we go to trying to get > > > something approaching a name actor (Ruffalo is well known in indie film > > > and rom-com circles, and appeals to women) instead of the best actor. Not > > > a thing at all against Ruffalo, but Lord I get tired of always watching > > > the same old people. > > > One of the reasons I seek out true indie and good foreign films is that I > > > get to see fresh faces without all this hoopla attached to them. I didn't > > > recognize a single actor in "The Secret in Their Eyes", which helped me > > > really get into the film. This weekend I'll be checking out "Winter's > > > Bone", which also doesn't have any name stars or A-Listers, and I'm > > > really psyched about that opportunity to really get lost in a movie. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kelwyn" <ravenadal@> > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:45:10 AM > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for "Avengers" > > > Flick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IMDB is reporting that Mark Ruffalo is the new Hulk. > > > > > > http://www.imdb.com/news/ni3308027/ > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter <martinbaxter7@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You, Mr Worf, are a GENIUS. I take back Cera in entirety. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Mr. Worf <HelloMahogany@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about Jackie Earle Haley? > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, B Smith <daikaiju66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Still thin but not frail. He's learned a few tricks and picked up > > > > >> some > > > > >> fighting skills. > > > > >> > > > > >> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Thanks for the update. Though "snarky", isn't Banner still frail > > > > >> > and > > > > >> weak looking? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> > From: "B Smith" <daikaiju66@> > > > > >> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:41:55 PM > > > > >> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for > > > > >> > "Avengers" > > > > >> Flick > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Bruce Banner hasn't been the puny Banner stereotype for a long > > > > >> > time. > > > > >> Banner is a bit of a snarky so and so and that could lead to some > > > > >> nice > > > > >> exchanges with Downey and Jackson. Norton played him just right but > > > > >> unfortunately he was such a pain to work with he was dropped. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Michael Cera is way too young. Jason Bateman on the other hand > > > > >> > could be > > > > >> awesome. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I wonder if Cera might not be a bit too young? I don't follow > > > > >> > > Hulk. > > > > >> What's up with Banner's behaviour? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> > > From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxter7@> > > > > >> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:18:00 AM > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel Dumps Norton as Banner for > > > > >> > > "Avengers" > > > > >> Flick > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Keith, if they want "flavor-of-the-week", Michael Cera would be > > > > >> > > a > > > > >> great fit for Banner as well. And the character would have to be > > > > >> written, > > > > >> IMO, the way he's been done post-World War Hulk, after Banner and > > > > >> the Hulk > > > > >> were separated, and Banner became a truly scary bastich who played > > > > >> mind > > > > >> games with everyone around him. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Keith Johnson < KeithBJohnson@ > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > They need to quit worrying about "name" actors and just get an > > > > >> > > actor > > > > >> who looks and can play the part. Eric Bana was way too buff and > > > > >> handsome for > > > > >> Banner. Norton was probably closer, but his almost Shakespearean > > > > >> intensity > > > > >> was a bit too much for the skinny, unsure, milksop that is Bruce > > > > >> Banner. I > > > > >> think Phoenix would come off too much like a crazed mad scientist > > > > >> than the > > > > >> "puny Banner" we need. Cast the net far and wide to find the right > > > > >> man, and > > > > >> notoriety be hanged! That's the damn problem with H'Wood all the > > > > >> time. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Someone who looks the part, for example, would be Jon Cryer, the > > > > >> > > whiny > > > > >> brother on "Two and A Half Men". Not saying he *should* do it, but > > > > >> that's > > > > >> the *look* you need for Banner-someone who looks soft and weak, as > > > > >> if he's > > > > >> never seen the sun or the inside of a gym. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > ************************************************ > > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> > > From: "Daryle Lockhart" < daryle@ > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > So now I'm hearing they're talking seriously to Joaquin Phoenix. > > > > >> > > Which > > > > >> is both awesome and frightening at the same time to me. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > ************************************************* > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Cinque B wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Marvel: Norton Won't Return As Hulk For 'Avengers'; Norton's Rep > > > > >> Responds > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Source: Access Hollywood Sun Jul 11, 2010, 8:15 pm EDT > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Edward Norton won't be reprising his role as the Incredible Hulk > > > > >> > > in > > > > >> 2012's "The Avengers," a Marvel rep confirmed to Access Hollywood on > > > > >> Sunday. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Marvel Studios president of production Kevin Feige explained the > > > > >> decision in a statement to HitFix . > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Edward Norton > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > "We have made the decision to not bring Ed Norton back to > > > > >> > > portray the > > > > >> title role of Bruce Banner in 'The Avengers,'" Feige told the site. > > > > >> "Our > > > > >> decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but > > > > >> instead rooted > > > > >> in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and > > > > >> collaborative > > > > >> spirit of our other talented cast members. 'The Avengers' demands > > > > >> players > > > > >> who thrive working as part of an ensemble, as evidenced by Robert, > > > > >> Chris H, > > > > >> Chris E, Sam, Scarlett, and all of our talented casts. We are > > > > >> looking to > > > > >> announce a name actor who fulfills these requirements, and is > > > > >> passionate > > > > >> about the iconic role in the coming weeks." > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > The actors referred to in the statement include current Marvel > > > > >> > > stars > > > > >> Robert Downey Jr. (" Iron Man "), Chris Hemsworth ("Thor), Chris > > > > >> Evans > > > > >> ("Captain America: The First Avenger"), Samuel L. Jackson (Nick > > > > >> Fury), > > > > >> Scarlett Johansson (" Iron Man 2's" Black Widow), who are expected > > > > >> to > > > > >> reprise their superhero roles in team-up film "The Avengers." > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Scenes From > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'ÃââÃÆ'ââââ¬à ¡ÃâìÃÆ'ââ¬Â¹Ãâ¦" > > > > >> > > The Incredible Hulk > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'ÃââÃÆ'ââââ¬à ¡ÃâìÃÆ'ââââ¬à ¾Ãââ > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > A rep for Norton responded to the statement to Hitfix on Sunday, > > > > >> calling it "purposefully misleading" and claiming that his client > > > > >> had been > > > > >> in discussions to return to the role. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > "This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a > > > > >> > > purposefully > > > > >> misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative > > > > >> light," > > > > >> the rep told the site. "Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin > > > > >> called me > > > > >> and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in > > > > >> 'The > > > > >> Avengers.' He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on > > > > >> stage with > > > > >> the rest of the cast at [Comic-Con] and make it the event of the > > > > >> convention. > > > > >> When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was > > > > >> very > > > > >> excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with [director] Joss > > > > >> Whedon to > > > > >> discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting > > > > >> (confirmed by > > > > >> Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the > > > > >> prospect of > > > > >> being a part of the ensemble cast." > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > However, the rep further claimed, the talks fell apart last > > > > >> > > week. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Fan Candy : Superheroes, Sci-Fi & Beyond ! > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > "Marvel subsequently made him a financial offer to be in the > > > > >> > > film and > > > > >> both sides started negotiating in good faith," he told Hitfix. "This > > > > >> past > > > > >> Wednesday, after several weeks of civil, uncontentious discussions, > > > > >> but > > > > >> before we had come to terms on a deal, a representative from Marvel > > > > >> called > > > > >> to say they had decided to go in another direction with the part. > > > > >> This > > > > >> seemed to us to be a financial decision but, whatever the case, it > > > > >> is > > > > >> completely their prerogative, and we accepted their decision with no > > > > >> hard > > > > >> feelings... We know a lot of fans have voiced their public > > > > >> disappointment > > > > >> with this result, but this is no excuse for Feige's mean spirited, > > > > >> accusatory comments. Counter to what Kevin implies here, Edward was > > > > >> looking > > > > >> forward to the opportunity to work with Joss and the other actors in > > > > >> the > > > > >> Avengers cast, many of whom are personal friends of his. Feige's > > > > >> statement > > > > >> is unprofessional, disingenuous and clearly defamatory. Mr. Norton > > > > >> talent, > > > > >> tireless work ethic and professional integrity deserve more respect, > > > > >> and so > > > > >> do Marvel's fans." > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Norton played the role of Bruce Banner and his alter-ego, the > > > > >> Incredible Hulk , in 2008's " The Incredible Hulk ," a > > > > >> reboot/follow-up to > > > > >> 2003's "The Hulk ," which starred Eric Bana in the title role. > > > > >> Reports of a > > > > >> feud between the actor and the studio emerged along with the film, > > > > >> however, > > > > >> with Norton finally issuing a statement to Entertainment Weekly to > > > > >> address > > > > >> the rumors. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > VIEW THE PHOTOS: Spectacular Superheroes > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > "Every good movie gets forged through collaboration, and > > > > >> > > different > > > > >> ideas among people who are all committed and respect the validity of > > > > >> each > > > > >> other's opinions is the heart of filmmaking," he told the mag in > > > > >> April 2008. > > > > >> "Regrettably, our healthy process, which is and should be a private > > > > >> matter, > > > > >> was misrepresented publicly as a 'dispute,' seized on by people > > > > >> looking for > > > > >> a good story, and has been distorted to such a degree that it risks > > > > >> distracting from the film itself." > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > With Marvel hosting panels at the San Diego Comic-Con > > > > >> > > International > > > > >> later this month, news on who will replace Norton - and perhaps > > > > >> further > > > > >> casting information - seems likely to emerge in the weeks to come. > > > > >> > > Copyright 2010 by NBC Universal, Inc . All rights reserved. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > >> > > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the > > > > >> > > bloody > > > > >> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ------------------------------------ > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > > > >> > > > > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo > > > > >> ! > > > > >> Groups Links > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! > > > > > Mahogany at: > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody > > > > hell > > > > wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > > > > >
