The wife and I loved The Matrix trilogy as well, warts and all. I think people complained more about the direction and story in the sequels than the quality of what we got.
I loved Inception for some of the same reasons Bosco disliked it. The SF elements are a part of the story but once those elements are pared away you get to the meat of a more personal story about grief. The thing that stuck with me at the end is I didn't really care if what I saw was actually a SF movie or someone's cathartic dream therapy it hooked me. Hearing an audience gasp and then applaud at the last image of a film wasn't something I had experienced in a long time. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amy Harlib" <ahar...@...> wrote: > > > ahar...@... > I loved all three Matrix movies too! You're not alone! > Amy > > From: Keith Johnson > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 12:00 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception > > > > > > Dude, put on your reading glasses! :) > > I haven't even *seen* "Inception" yet. Like i said, I am looking forward to > seeing it, and am curious to compare glowing reviews against Bosco's more > measured assessment. As for "The Matrix", no your memory doesn't serve well > at all. I loved the Matrix. Indeed, I'm one of the few who loves the second > and third Matrix films. So much of the mainstream public who was pulled into > the first film more for the innovative FX and action, bailed as the Wachowski > brothers moved more into philosophy and spiritualism. Hence, the sequels are > almost legendary as examples of a franchise's quality diminishing, but no, I > wasn't on that boat. I loved all three flicks. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelwyn" <ravena...@...> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 11:10:23 AM > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception > > > I am roping off the Keith Johnson/Bosco Bosco curmudgeon section of the > theater (not that anything is wrong with that). If memory serves me correctly > both of you were in the same (wrong) camp regarding the first Matrix movie - > and, for many of the same reasons. > > As an old (former) friend once told me: "There is no accounting for taste - > AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY!" > > You can both be right and still be wrong. I recently saw "The Hangover" and I > don't get it. It is stupid, pointlessly violent, (racist even) - but not > funny. Millions beg to disagree with me. > > You two gentlemen obviously have both taste and erudition so I will just > chalk this up to different strokes for different folks. > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > I plan to see it later today, having been late to the party as well. I'm > > looking forward to it, based on your take, to compare against the hype. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bosco Bosco" <ironpigs3@> > > To: "Sci Fi Noir" <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 11:44:59 PM > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Finally Saw Inception > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots of cool visual effects and technical complexities. It turns out the > > tech complexities are mostly irrelevant. In fact the entire dreaming and > > reality part of the story is pretty much pointless. It's a basically a sci > > fi twist on some really old themes. The sci fi part is really fun but those > > old themes have been conquered by better men with better skills both in > > director's chair and in front of the camera. I would hazard a guess that > > beyond some simple nostalgia in a few years no one will remember this one > > or care about it. It won't hold up. You can boil the entire movie down to > > father issues and regret issues and both have been done better and more > > intelligently. I know I'm late to the party and I'm clearly old because I > > don't find the hype accurate but I figured I would weigh in anyway > > > > Bosco > > >