I didn't intend to start such a firestorm. (smile) Isaac Asimov was both Jewish and an atheist, so I don't think that he was looking forward to heaven after dying. The business about accepting death was somewhat of a personal statement. (And I am 50, so you can't pin the young person accepting death for an older person on me.) I still think that Americans are too quick to sue when honest "mistakes" are made. No one is perfect. And in this case, the villantry is too wide-spread.
His doctor would have been wrong NOT to order a transfusion to save a dying man. There was no test for AIDS at that time. I blame the blood centers for not making that fact known, but knowing that fact would not have saved him. Whoever donated was wrong to donate, but s/he might not have known of the illness. This isn't a case where an instrument was left in the patient's gut by a drunk doctor. --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Carole McDonnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wasn't talking about acceptance of death actually. > > My point was specifically about whether Person A could say that > Persom B would or should be pragmatic about the end of Person B's > life. > > It's the "someone else" factor. > > As for wanting to die, I'm sure many people have accepted death. And > some have raged against the dying of the light. But I suspect that > when someone has written many stories and probably wants to write > many more, they would be a bit stressed to suddenly be told that they > really have lived a long life. Again it's the "someone else" judging > the worth of another person's life. And judging it by the year factor. > > This is not about whether accepting the afterlife in a positive > manner. I personally would like nothing better than to die and go to > heaven and be with Christ, but isn't that the point? That we cannot > use ageism to say "well this person has lived a long life." So I've > accepted the joys of after-death. It wasn't death I had the problem > with but with people thinking that once a person -- productive or not- > - has reached a certain age, then life doesn't matter to them > anymore. The young hate life sometimes -- as I often do. And the old > love it. Or they fear death and resent it when it comes. Age and > should not be the decisive factor about whether one should sue in a > wrongful death case. Nor for that matter should that other vague > bugaboo "quality of life" be judged by someone else. > > We don't want a fascist world ruled by young people who think that > old people should be rational and positively go gently into that good > night just because the old person is ...old. -C > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, Nora <njem@> wrote: > > > > > No matter how long and productive one's life is, one doesn't want > to > > > die. Life is always too short for those who have had productive > lives. > > > Now if he were a depressive and was in some ways always longing > for > > > death...now that's a different story. But you can't say that > someone > > > should be pragmatic about the length of his life when he's been > given a > > > death sentence. > > > > I'm not sure I agree with that, Carole. Not to debate theology > with you -- > > you'd win hands-down =) -- but I see no reason why a person can't > come to an > > acceptance of death, or even a positive outlook on it, particularly > if they > > believe there's something to look forward to afterward. Isn't that > the one > > commonality of every faith -- that it provides some comfort for the > fear of > > death? I feel no fear of death at this point in my life, and I'm > only in my > > thirties. I'm not suicidal; I want to enjoy my life while it > lasts, and > > accomplish quite a bit more along the way. I *am* afraid of dying > badly -- > > something very painful or humiliating (yes, I expect to retain some > vanity > > even unto death =P) for example. But once the messy part is over > with, I > > have to admit I'm really curious to find out what comes after. I > can't help > > it. I'll never get into space or live half of the adventures that > I write > > about in my novels, but death is the one great mystery we'll all > get to > > experience. If Asimov felt anything similar, then I see no reason > why he > > would have been angry about his death even if it was hastened by a > mistake. > > > > (Now, if I get hit by a bus on my way home ya'll, somebody send > this email > > to my mama. =P) > > > > Nora > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/DtIolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Community email addresses: Post message: SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe Digest Mode: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SciFiNoir_Lit/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SciFiNoir_Lit/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/