Nigel Gatherer wrote: | Jack Campin wrote: | > - can you handle a 200-tune file with all the tunes numbered zero? | > This is to stop John Chambers' Tune Finder plagiarizing my stuff | > by ripping things out of context (which he already has done with | > the current version despite my explicit request both in the file | > and on this list for him to desist)... | | What did he say? John is, on the strength of his usenet/mailing list | contributions, a decent, fair-minded chap with enough know-how and | ingenuity to create his tune-finding software. I'd bet that with his | considerable abilities he'd be able simply to devise a way of | preserving your material so that it isn't accessible.
Hmmm ... I'd thought I did what Jack asked. To my knowledge, my abc tune finder will not return single files from his files that have X:0 for the tunes. I even fixed a "bug" (which I'd thought a feature ;-) in which the ABC link returned only the tunes and not the surrounding text. For X:0 it now returns the entire file, exactly as the Get link, but with text/vnd.abc as the MIME type. So I'm curious about how I done any ripping, on or off. I'd like to know how my tune finder can be used to extract just one of the tunes from Jack's X:0 files. I don't know how to do it myself. In any case, my search bot has a config file in which I can tell it to ignore a host or a URL (and anything it points to). If anyone wants only part of their abc collection indexed and made available through my tune finder, I can exclude single files or whole directories. (That paragraph was why I decided to post this rather than just sending a note to Jack. I'd like to invite people to tell me if they'd like some of their tunes excluded from my tune finder's indexes. Remember that it can only be done on a per-URL basis. One file or one directory and its subdirectories, or the equivalent with trees of web pages.) One thing I can't do, of course, is prevent someone else from using my links to download a file and chop it up. Nobody can prevent this on someone else's machine. Most abc tools that I know of have the ability to separate out parts of abc files (single tunes, single voices, just melody without chords, whatever). This is natural; music tools that can't do such chopping wouldn't be very useful. The only way I know to effectively prevent this is to not put a file on the web. Also, the main (one might say only) purpose of my tune finder is to locate specific tunes and download them. If you don't want people to do this, maybe it's best if I don't index your files at all. A few people have requested this, and I've put them in my "avoid" list. They can still potentially be found through the big search sites, but such sites aren't too good at specialized things like abc. | The first thing you've got to do is speak with each other. Tell him | what you want to happen and what you don't want to happen. If you feel | you've already done that, persevere: perhaps there has been a | misunderstanding. Yeah; I thought I understood what Jack wanted, and supplied it. I was obviously wrong. Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music & Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
