On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:12 PM, ping <songpingem...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  hi Kevin / Paul :
> yes I think this might be vim issue. or , at least vim-screen integration 
> issue.
> but being able to use vim smoothly in screen is essential for my daily work 
> and it is a big part of my use of screen.
>
> the steps to reproduce is quick simple:
> 1) c-s-5 to go to console 5
> 2) start screen : screen -S test
> 3) c-s-7 to go back X
> 4) screen -dR test to attach the screen
> 5) start vim in screen session 0 (or any other sessions)
>    vim
> 6) type "i" go into insert mode, then start to type anything there, for 
> example:
>    some texts that I want to coy to editor geany
>    type <esc> key to leave insert mode
> 7) shift-v to mark the line in vim, "+y to copy it into register "+
>
> now at this point, ":registers" command shows the texts are in "0 "" and ". 
> register, but not even in the "+ register.
> I think that's why I can't paste it to any apps in X.
>
>
This does not work for me either. But it does not work for me under X or
outside of screen either.  After shift-v, pressing + gives me a system beep
indicating some error. Pressing y does the usual yank.

> and the "left button to mark and select and middle button to paste" method 
> that usually works in X seems not work for vim, at least in my case...
> its ok for other editors like nano.
>
> Using the mouse works fine for me.

> I think the "left button text mark" was intercepted by vim for other usage. 
> that said, if I disable mouse in vim(set mouse-=a), I'm ok
> to achieve the same effect with that method. but again, I don't understand 
> why vim "+ or "* register doesn't cooperatively work inside screen that 
> started outside of X (from console in this case).
>
> and, as what I usually did, if I start screen from inside X and start vim 
> there (but vim won't survive accross X reboot, OK, that's another issue), 
> with the help of these vimrc config:if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
>           set term=xterm
>           let g:GNU_Screen_used = 1
>         else
>           let g:GNU_Screen_used = 0
>         endif
> or even this:
> if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
>   set term=xterm
> endif
>
> (see this http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/GNU_Screen_integration)
>
> I can copy things to "+ or "* and then paste the content from these registers 
> to X apps...
>
> This still did not work for me. I see nothing in the + register and get the
system beep.

> I'm not sure if plugin fakeclip that another advice I got from this alias 
> work or not (looks most for maxOS), I haven't try it yet...
>
>
How about this idea. Under X, open an terminal. Then ssh to localhost. Then
start screen. The screen session should persist across X reboots since sshd
is started outside of X. You might want to experiment with the -X and -Y
option to ssh to see if that has any affect.

Another idea. Do as before (start screen from a non-X console) and do a
"export DISPLAY=:0.0" or what every display you are on before starting vim.
Maybe vim and/or your mouse is using that to get to the xclipboard.

>
>
> thanks.
>
> regards
> ping
>
>
>
> > On 08/01/2011 04:28 PM, Paul Ackersviller wrote:
>
> This is now just a problem with vim and not specific to screen, correct?
> I don't know why any of the above is ever necessary, unless it's some sort
> of workaround for the use of ttymouse.  If you're setting ttymouse in vim
> (or maybe someone else is setting it for you), you need to hold down a shift
> key for vim to ignore mouse clicks and pass them through to the terminal.
>
>
>
> On 07/29/2011 02:16 PM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
>
> Ping,
>
>  I'm not a vim user, so I don't know what that code is supposed to do or
> how to use it. Can you provide the step by steps to reproduce the issue. You
> should be able to use the copy/paste feature of your window manager or X11.
> For me, I can highlight text with the mouse and then paste it with the
> middle mouse button.
>
>  Kevin
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM, ping <songpingem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  hi kevin:
>> I tried that and it looks good, in terms that my apps inside screen now
>> get retained across X reboot...but then I find another issue that make it
>> hard to use this approach in practice:
>> it looks now I can't copy$paste between vim and other apps, or even
>> between vim instances I was running inside screen...
>> previously I can at least achieve that with following vim config:
>>
>> if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
>>   set term=xterm
>>   let g:GNU_Screen_used = 1
>> else
>>   let g:GNU_Screen_used = 0
>> endif
>>
>>
>> function! InScreen(command)
>>   return g:GNU_Screen_used ? 'screen '.a:command : a:command
>> endfunction
>>
>> I double maybe this related to the fact that, with this approach now
>> screen (and all its child) is not a child of X, so it has problem to access
>> the X selections or clipboards...
>> any idea?
>>
>> regards
>>  ping
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/07/2011 03:21 PM, ping wrote:
>>
>> hi Kevin:
>> thanks and that sounds exactly what my issue was.
>> I'll try start screen from outside of X and see if it is ok.
>>
>> regards
>> ping
>>
>> On 07/07/2011 09:37 AM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
>>
>> Ping,
>>
>>  If you start screen from an X session,  then screen is a child of X. So
>> when X dies, so does screen. To do what you want, you would have to start
>> screen outside of X.
>>
>>  There are many ways to do this. For example, you could start a screen
>> session at boot time from rc.local. Or you could just switch to a different
>> tty (e.g. ctrl-alt-F2) and start a new screen session there. Then go back to
>> X (ctrl-alt-F7) and reattach to that screen session.
>>
>>  Kevin
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:44 PM, ping <songpingem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  guys:
>>> I use screen for years and I'm happy with it.
>>> one thing annoyed me a lot is everytime when i need to reload X (it's not
>>> stable), and when I come back and find everything in my screen (vim, news,
>>> mutt, telnet, ssh,...everything) also went away, the session/windows are
>>> there though. searching the internet I haven't got much useful info.
>>> people are saying they use screen to get persistent sessions across
>>> X...how can i archive that?
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> regards
>>> ping
>>>
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