thanks again Kevin!
just read this and following the instructions it work!
I'll going to test the -X/-T options and feedback my test result.

best regards
ping


regards
ping

On 09/06/2011 04:14 PM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
Hi Ping,

There are a couple of options for setting DISPLAY automatically for new windows.

1. You could put "export DISPLAY=:0.0" in your bashrc file.
2. You could put "setenv DISPLAY :0.0" in your screenrc file.
3. You could manually run the above screen command (via C-a :) in an active screen session. (this would set it for all new windows).

Regarding the other issues, it looks like vim relies on X for a lot of stuff. I'm not a vim user, but you might want to test the "-X" and "-T screen" options to vim. They might help out.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:31 PM, ping <songpingem...@gmail.com <mailto:songpingem...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    hi kevin/folks:

    just update about this issue.
    this morning my X got froze after long weekend -- I was able to
    work on it in ssh all the time though.
    I have 2 screen sessions previously created using option 2) --
    start screen inside ssh connections to loopback.
    I killed the X and got a new X.
    I re-attached my 2 old screen sessions. here is what I observed:

            everything "looks" is still there, but
            all my own vim key mappings got lost, only the default key
    maps work. --- looks vim issue.
            all login sessions (telnet/ssh) to remote servers got
    lost, --- look vim issue. (I run vim ConqueTerm plugin and login
    to server from that)
            vim behave strange, no "tab completion" under vim cmd
    now.  ---looks vim issue
            cp/paste doesn't work well, this looks expected I think,
    guess this is because vim is still sticking to previous X clipboard
                while it is now running with a new X (display ID
    changed)  ---looks X issue.

    so overall I can't blame screen at all.

    I'm going to switch to option 1: start screen in console and
    re-attach it in X. just it's boring to type export DISPLAY=:0.0 in
    every windows.

    is there a way to automatically execute a cmd(s) right before a
    new windows got created?

    and, furthermore, anyone had better vim/screen integration
    tips/solutions is highly welcomed to share his/her experiences ...

    thanks!

    regards
    ping



    On 08/02/2011 06:32 PM, ping wrote:
    kevin,
    thanks for your time on that. but you forget " when you yank to
    register, so to yank things to X clipboard, type:
    "+
    not just +

    yes I just tested your 2 more alternates out, here is the results:
    option 1) the export DISPLAY method works great!
    option 2) the ssh method also works in terms of copy&paste
    I have to wait and see it survives across next X restart--I think
    it can.

    and, I think this option2) also has its value given that option1
    works, imaging I can create a screen from ssh remotely. starting
    screen from console I need to have physical access to my laptop...

    thanks again! I hope other screen/vim-lovers also enjoy these
    workarounds.

    regards
    ping

    On 08/02/2011 12:13 PM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:


    On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:12 PM, ping <songpingem...@gmail.com
    <mailto:songpingem...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        hi Kevin / Paul :
        yes I think this might be vim issue. or , at least vim-screen 
integration issue.
        but being able to use vim smoothly in screen is essential for my daily 
work and it is a big part of my use of screen.
the steps to reproduce is quick simple:
        1) c-s-5 to go to console 5
        2) start screen : screen -S test
        3) c-s-7 to go back X
        4) screen -dR test to attach the screen
        5) start vim in screen session 0 (or any other sessions)
            vim
        6) type "i" go into insert mode, then start to type anything there, for 
example:
            some texts that I want to coy to editor geany
            type<esc>  key to leave insert mode
        7) shift-v to mark the line in vim, "+y to copy it into register "+

        now at this point, ":registers" command shows the texts are in "0 "" and ". 
register, but not even in the "+ register.
        I think that's why I can't paste it to any apps in X.


    This does not work for me either. But it does not work for me
    under X or outside of screen either.  After shift-v, pressing +
    gives me a system beep indicating some error. Pressing y does
    the usual yank.

        and the "left button to mark and select and middle button to paste" 
method that usually works in X seems not work for vim, at least in my case...
        its ok for other editors like nano.

    Using the mouse works fine for me.

        I think the "left button text mark" was intercepted by vim for other 
usage. that said, if I disable mouse in vim(set mouse-=a), I'm ok
        to achieve the same effect with that method. but again, I don't understand why 
vim "+ or "* register doesn't cooperatively work inside screen that started 
outside of X (from console in this case).

        and, as what I usually did, if I start screen from inside X and start 
vim there (but vim won't survive accross X reboot, OK, that's another issue), 
with the help of these vimrc config:
        if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
                   set term=xterm
                   let g:GNU_Screen_used = 1
                 else
                   let g:GNU_Screen_used = 0
                 endif
        or even this:
        if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
           set term=xterm
        endif

        (see thishttp://vim.wikia.com/wiki/GNU_Screen_integration)

        I can copy things to "+ or "* and then paste the content from these 
registers to X apps...

    This still did not work for me. I see nothing in the + register
    and get the system beep.

        I'm not sure if plugin fakeclip that another advice I got from this 
alias work or not (looks most for maxOS), I haven't try it yet...


    How about this idea. Under X, open an terminal. Then ssh to
    localhost. Then start screen. The screen session should persist
    across X reboots since sshd is started outside of X. You might
    want to experiment with the -X and -Y option to ssh to see if
    that has any affect.

    Another idea. Do as before (start screen from a non-X console)
    and do a "export DISPLAY=:0.0" or what every display you are on
    before starting vim. Maybe vim and/or your mouse is using that
    to get to the xclipboard.

        thanks.

        regards
        ping



        >  On 08/01/2011 04:28 PM, Paul Ackersviller wrote:

        This is now just a problem with vim and not specific to screen, correct?
        I don't know why any of the above is ever necessary, unless it's some 
sort
        of workaround for the use of ttymouse.  If you're setting ttymouse in 
vim
        (or maybe someone else is setting it for you), you need to hold down a 
shift
        key for vim to ignore mouse clicks and pass them through to the 
terminal.



        On 07/29/2011 02:16 PM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
        Ping,

        I'm not a vim user, so I don't know what that code is
        supposed to do or how to use it. Can you provide the step
        by steps to reproduce the issue. You should be able to use
        the copy/paste feature of your window manager or X11. For
        me, I can highlight text with the mouse and then paste it
        with the middle mouse button.

        Kevin

        On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM, ping
        <songpingem...@gmail.com <mailto:songpingem...@gmail.com>>
        wrote:

            hi kevin:
            I tried that and it looks good, in terms that my apps
            inside screen now get retained across X reboot...but
            then I find another issue that make it hard to use this
            approach in practice:
            it looks now I can't copy$paste between vim and other
            apps, or even between vim instances I was running
            inside screen...
            previously I can at least achieve that with following
            vim config:

            if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
              set term=xterm
              let g:GNU_Screen_used = 1
            else
              let g:GNU_Screen_used = 0
            endif


            function! InScreen(command)
              return g:GNU_Screen_used ? 'screen '.a:command :
            a:command
            endfunction

            I double maybe this related to the fact that, with this
            approach now screen (and all its child) is not a child
            of X, so it has problem to access the X selections or
            clipboards...
            any idea?

            regards
            ping



            On 07/07/2011 03:21 PM, ping wrote:
            hi Kevin:
            thanks and that sounds exactly what my issue was.
            I'll try start screen from outside of X and see if it
            is ok.

            regards
            ping

            On 07/07/2011 09:37 AM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
            Ping,

            If you start screen from an X session,  then screen
            is a child of X. So when X dies, so does screen. To
            do what you want, you would have to start screen
            outside of X.

            There are many ways to do this. For example, you
            could start a screen session at boot time from
            rc.local. Or you could just switch to a different tty
            (e.g. ctrl-alt-F2) and start a new screen session
            there. Then go back to X (ctrl-alt-F7) and reattach
            to that screen session.

            Kevin

            On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:44 PM, ping
            <songpingem...@gmail.com
            <mailto:songpingem...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                guys:
                I use screen for years and I'm happy with it.
                one thing annoyed me a lot is everytime when i
                need to reload X (it's not stable), and when I
                come back and find everything in my screen (vim,
                news, mutt, telnet, ssh,...everything) also went
                away, the session/windows are there though.
                searching the internet I haven't got much useful
                info.
                people are saying they use screen to get
                persistent sessions across X...how can i archive
                that?

                thanks!

                regards
                ping

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