Christine I must not have worded it very well but that's pretty much what I am saying. We normally adjust the platten (board) > you need to either move the board in or out as you >>> change sizes or adjust where you are placing the shirt You still need the marks on your platten to pull the shirt to though so that each shirt is in the same spot. Your second XL will not slide on in the smae position as the first one you printed. The marks on the platten ensure you pull every shirt to the same position on the board. Also, when you grab the shirt at both shoulders and pull it back to line it up you learn to pull evenly on both shoulders so the shirt stays square.
We don't have marks on the press for adjusting the platten because our plattens are in too many different positions for different jobs. We just stand a good old fashioned wooden ruler on it's edge, place the 3" mark (or whatever measuremant you need) at the collar seam, pull the screen down until it just touches the ruler so you can tell where the tip of the ruler is. The top of your design needs to be right at the tip of the ruler. Again, this only takes a few seconds to do. >> Also, what tolerance do you all have for determining if a shirt is >> acceptable? I often wonder if I am just too picky. My tolerance is "Would I buy this shirt for myself? This shirt is a walking advertisement for my business, do I want to see this shirt walking down the street?" Also keep in mind that peoples bodies are not square. Everyone is different. One persons left shoulder might sit slightly lower than their right etc. Cheryl > From: "Christine Mantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Screenprinter's Mailing List" <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:10:58 -0600 > To: "Screenprinter's Mailing List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SE-List] Does anyone use this list anymore? > > Instead of adjusting the shirt for each size, what about moving the platen > in and out for different sizes. Does anyone have marks on the arms of the > press that they use to adjust the platen to? Therefore, you would always > pull the shirt all the way on the platen and line up the shoulder seams (so > you know the shirt is square on the platen). This is one idea that we have > come up with but really haven't put it to use yet to see if it is practical > or not. > > It just seems to me that when you start pulling the shirt to meet a mark > that is when the shirt gets off square. > > Also, what tolerance do you all have for determining if a shirt is > acceptable? I often wonder if I am just too picky. Also, sometimes the > design can look perfectly square on the shirt, but as soon as it is washed, > the design is not crooked. > > TIA > Christine Mantz > Identity Elements > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "screen Print Specialities" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Screenprinter's Mailing List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:02 PM > Subject: Re: [SE-List] Does anyone use this list anymore? > > >> 1 more thing. We use the same method as Bill >>> For example, for smalls put shirt all the way on the pallet until >>>>> the collar edge stops at the 4" mark. Print all smalls on this mark. >> but keep in mind that on the board as >> Bill >> mentioned when he stated you may want to pull the XL shirt up. A small >> shirt will not slide as far onto the pallet as an XL so you have to make >> up >> for that by adjusting the placement of either the shirt or the board so >> that >> your print will stay the correct distance down from the bottom of the >> collar >> seam on all of the sizes. >> Cheryl >> >>> From: screen Print Specialities <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: "Screenprinter's Mailing List" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:47:01 -0600 >>> To: "Screenprinter's Mailing List" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [SE-List] Does anyone use this list anymore? >>> >>> Christine, >>> I didn't find those e-mails I was looking for but Bill just did a great >>> job >>> of helping you out. To place your shirt on the pallet we grasp the shirt >>> at >>> the bottom hem on each side, scrunch it up in your hands a couple of >>> inches >>> (making the shirt shorter) then slide each hand along the outer edges of >>> the pallet as you slide the shirt on. We slide the shirt all the way on >>> until the shoulders hit the top edge of the pallet to help square the >>> shirt >>> up, then if necessary, grasp at each shoulder and gently pull it back >>> towards you a little to line up on your mark. Then use both hands to >>> grasp >>> each side of the shirt directly under each armpit and gently put downward >>> tension on it pulling the shirt tight. Does it feel like one hand is >>> higher >>> than the other? (Is one hand 2" below the pallet and the other 3" below?) >>> This helps to check that you are centered. Then a quick swipe of the hand >>> across the shirt to flatten. This only takes a couple of seconds to do >>> after >>> you get used to it. REMEMBER.. the center crease is only a suggestion and >>> can be as far off as the necklines and pockets. >>> >>> As far as where to actually place the print on the shirts it would be the >>> same as you have been using for embroidery. >>> >>> Cheryl Teems >>> Screen Print Specialties >>> >>>> From: "Bill Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Reply-To: "Screenprinter's Mailing List" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:50:45 -0600 >>>> To: "Screenprinter's Mailing List" <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [SE-List] Does anyone use this list anymore? >>>> >>>> This is my system for design placement: >>>> When burning screens, I put a piece of "shoe molding" / ("1/4 round >>>> molding") on my exposure unit (and I leave it there). It is heavly >>>> taped >>>> down (ends only) on the glass and has center line on it so I know >>>> exactly >>>> where the center is. When I place my positives on the glass, I measure >>>> up >>>> about 1" from the molding and tape my film positives in 3 >>>> places.....top, >>>> left, and right sides to the glass. I use the registration marks to >>>> align >>>> with the center mark on my piece of moulding. Then I put the screen on >>>> and >>>> butt it against the moulding,centered on the moulding. For the next >>>> film >>>> positive, only remove one side of tape on positive that is already taped >>>> down, slide next positive underneath the first and line up the >>>> registration >>>> marks. Tape down this film on three sides maintaining alignment with >>>> first >>>> positive and then remove the orignal positive, place screen on exposue >>>> unit >>>> and burn screen. Repeat process for all screens. >>>> >>>> On printing press: >>>> Take a T-square and a sharpie marker and draw a line length wise down >>>> the >>>> pallet, right down the center. Then draw a few lines across >>>> (horizontal) >>>> the pallet about an inch apart. >>>> Then from the neck of the pallet, put four marks on the centerline. One >>>> at >>>> the 1" mark, 2" mark, 3" mark, and 4" mark. This is for when the shirt >>>> is >>>> on the pallet, put shirt all the way on until the collar stops at one of >>>> the >>>> marks. For example, for smalls put shirt all the way on the pallet >>>> until >>>> the collar edge stops at the 4" mark. Print all smalls on this mark. >>>> For >>>> the bigger sizes, you may want to use the 1" mark so the design will be >>>> a >>>> little farther down the shirt and not be stuck up close to the collar. >>>> Print >>>> all of the same sizes on the same mark. Clear as mud? >>>> The center mark on pallet: >>>> Tape one of your positives down on a pallet and use the registration >>>> marks >>>> to place directly on your centerline. Mount the screens and align all >>>> screens to this film. Remove film. >>>> Now, align the center crease in the shirt with the center mark on the >>>> pallet. >>>> Horizontal lines: >>>> The horizontal marks are to make the design straight on the shirt. >>>> Before >>>> you ink your screens, pull the screen down to the pallet and look >>>> through >>>> your design. Note where the design lands on your horizontal marks. >>>> Twist >>>> the pallet to make it look straight. Now, rotate to the next pallet and >>>> put >>>> same screen down on that pallet and adjust (twist) the pallet to make >>>> sure >>>> the design is not crooked on that pallet. Repeat for all pallets. >>>> Follow this procedure and you'll have straight designs at the same >>>> position >>>> for all shirts. >>>> I hope you could understand what I was trying to describe. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> __________________________________ >>>> Bill Wolfe >>>> Yoteez Screenprinting >>>> 141 CR 420 >>>> Calhoun City, MS 38916 >>>> 662-983-8071 business >>>> 662-796-3781 fax >>>> 662-628-8767 home >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Christine Mantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "Screenprinter's Mailing List" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:30 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [SE-List] Does anyone use this list anymore? >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have been wondering the same thing. Where is everyone? >>>>> >>>>> I would like to start a discussion. We have been screen printing for a >>>>> little over a year. And who ever said that "screen printing is not >>>>> rocket >>>>> science" must have been kidding. For some reason, screen printing >>>>> seems >>>>> about as close to rocket science as you can get as far as we are >>>>> concerned. >>>>> It is a never ending, learning process. Just when you think you got >>>>> it, >>>>> you >>>>> realize you really don't. >>>>> >>>>> As simple as it may be, I would like to discuss the best way to ensure >>>>> the >>>>> artwork is positioned on the shirt in the correct spot consistently? >>>>> We >>>>> have a "chart" that we use but it seems like we are having to "reinvent >>>>> the >>>>> wheel" everytime we print a new job. Sometimes we print too low, >>>>> sometimes >>>>> too high. Is there a secret to ensure proper placement on the >>>>> shirt...especially when you have an order of a variety of different >>>>> size >>>>> shirts? Do you do anything specific when placing the image on the >>>>> screen >>>>> before exposure? What about the press? Have you found a system for >>>>> making >>>>> changes to the press as far as platen or screen adjustments? >>>>> >>>>> Along the same lines...what is the secret to getting a shirt square on >>>>> the >>>>> platen so the design is not crooked? I have found the printers marks >>>>> on >>>>> the >>>>> shirts to be unreliable. Do you have a favorite brand of shirt that >>>>> you >>>>> have found to be most consistent? We typically use Gildan Ultra >>>>> Cotton, >>>>> but >>>>> I have found the collar placement on these shirts to be inconsistent >>>>> which >>>>> doesn't help when you are trying to get a shirt centered on the platen. >>>>> I >>>>> was wondering what shirts you all prefer and why? >>>>> >>>>> Hope this spurs a discussion and activity on this list. I have been >>>>> meaning >>>>> to ask these questions for sometime. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Chris Mantz >>>>> Identity Elements >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Scott Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "'Screenprinter's Mailing List'" >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:54 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [SE-List] Does anyone use this list anymore? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks John, >>>>>> The list is dead compared to what it used to be. The difference from >>>>>> before to now is unbelievable. 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