You should go to aKademy and have some lively discussions there ;-)
In fact there are 1 or 2 things from KDElibs we'd like to have in Scribus, e.g. the KIO way of opening files from a server. IMHO it would be worthwhile to explore if a better KDE integration makes sense. Of course we would still need a standalone Qt-Version for non-Linux platforms. That shouldn't be a big problem, we have several optional dependencies (fontconfig, cairo, podofo, ...) already. /Andreas a.l.e wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 19:15:23 +0200 > Christoph Sch?fer <christoph-schaefer at gmx.de> wrote: > >> Am Freitag, 9. April 2010 08:46:40 schrieb a.l.e: >> > hi >> > >> > > > > We >> > > > > thought that it would be nice to have a some talks from >> > > > > developers that work on Qt based programs but don't use the >> > > > > KDE framework. We're in particular interested to hear about >> > > > > why Qt is used and why there is no KDE integration. >> > > >> > > 2. Whether KDE 4 is terrible lies in the eye of the beholder/user, >> > > and personally I happen to disagree with you. >> > >> > the distributions i know, don't offer both a version of the >> > software with kdelib dependences and one without it: in my >> > opinion, integrating any software which is not a core tool in the >> > desktop environment is a pain for everybody who happens to have a >> > lightweight system (and doesn't want to install kde). >> > >> > we have more and more half baked solution for gnome, kde, xcfe, qt, >> > kde, and so on which can't be merged because their basically not >> > compatible (i talk about applications for mails, calendars, music >> > playing, web browsing, drawing, managing photos, ...) >> > >> > there may be some good reasons why some applications get >> > implemented in two ways, but it's not healthy when the goal of each >> > frameworks is to exclusively "attract" more and more applications in >> > their "world". >> > >> > >> > so, dear kde folks, what i can suggest to you, is to look for a way >> > to let QT integrate with KDE at runtime (depending on the >> > availability of the kdelibs). >> > or look at the problem the other way around: how can kde (and gnome >> > and xfce, ...) offer its services to scribus without expecting the >> > scribus devs to target your specific desktop environment? >> > i don't know who you have invited to your kde conference, but -- >> > imho -- you should be inviting the gnome, gtk, trolltech, >> > enlightenment, xfce folks and find with them how to enhance the kde >> > integration of most of the applications being developed without kde. >> > >> > your invitation to the scribus team looks to me like a lobbying act >> > tending to get scribus to become a kde app. this is something >> > against which a random slackware user will react emotionally... >> > and this is something makes me shake my head. >> >> I think your choice of words is inappropriate. This is an invitation >> to an Open Source conference. Akademy has earned an excellent >> reputation, and to excoriate such an invitation as a "lobbying act" >> is impolite, to say the least. > > they are inviting developers (not the team) to see why scribus is a > qt application but not a kde application. > > afaik, the kde community wants scribus to become a kde application and > it's their right to do so. > > i don't know how life is in germany, but in the countries i know, such > a way of doing is called lobbying. still, i wonder why you think > that talking about lobbying is impolite: i do much lobbying for free > software (and for scribus), too and i have never felt bad for it! > >> Attacking someone because he sends out an invitation is childish, so >> please stop it. > > i don't attack anybody and i think i have made some quite positive -- > non childish -- propositions. > > and i don't think that i > would have posted a mail under this topic if no discussion about kde > had been started by somebody else. > i wish all the free DE good luck and i hope that they get better and > better because they are very important for the people who need them. > but i'm also convinced that it's a bad idea to tie applications like > konqueror, evince, totem, krita, amarok, ... scribus to any single DE. > > > take care > a.l.e > > p.s.: i have re-read my mail and i have some difficulties to find where > are the inappropriate words in the context of a post on a mailing > list... > > _______________________________________________ > scribus mailing list > scribus at lists.scribus.info > http://lists.scribus.info/mailman/listinfo/scribus > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Akademy-invitation-tp28184732p28201408.html Sent from the Scribus New mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
