This is so ridiculous I'm not sure whether to laugh, cry, or unsubscribe. All that sanctimony, and not a peep from the supposedly offended party. Why is that, do you think?
If I were Mark -- and I posted several jobs to the group over the past four years -- I'd have used my comment as an opening to tell the group more about the company, department, team, culture… sell it to us, keeping the tone light and humorous. Because that's all it was, a light and humorous poke, until Matt and the others felt compelled to jump to Mark's defense. I've been hiring and managing developers for over 10 years, and you wouldn't believe how many of them forget to ask any questions about the company's financial health but want to know all about the perks like games, free drinks, etc. The latter part of my post was a dig at them, not H-P or Mark. Lighten up. Seriously. Being professional doesn't mean you have to walk around with a stick up your ass. Andreas On Sep 11, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Patrick Crowley <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey, folks. > > SD Ruby is a well-known group of Ruby developers who are widely respected for > being talented, knowledgeable, and professional. > > We don't get these job posts for free. We get them because we've earned > people's trust.... so don't take them for granted. If you aren't interested > in a job, don't be a jerk about it. > > I share the concerns that others had about what Andreas wrote. > > - Would it be appropriate to ask these questions in person during a job > interview at HP? NO. > > - Was he really unsure if the job post was from the same HP that has suffered > losses and layoffs? NO. > > - Did he really care whether or not there was a ping-pong table? NO. > > While I think Andreas had no real interest in this job, even if he did, his > questions could have been phrased more professionally. Is this job safe from > the next round of layoffs at HP? Is there a fun, creative work environment > that maybe includes ping-pong tables? etc. > > Going forward, please email companies directly when replying to job posts. > (We may also create a jobs-only mailing list at some point in the future too.) > > Cheers, > Patrick > > -- > SD Ruby mailing list > [email protected] > http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby -- SD Ruby mailing list [email protected] http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby
