It's been a pleasure following you all but I'm no longer a Ruby user. How do I unsubscribe from this group?
Malcolm Bohm O: 858.768.5051 C: 973.975.3784 On Sep 11, 2012, at 22:27, Andreas Kirn <[email protected]> wrote: > This is so ridiculous I'm not sure whether to laugh, cry, or unsubscribe. > All that sanctimony, and not a peep from the supposedly offended party. Why > is that, do you think? > > If I were Mark -- and I posted several jobs to the group over the past four > years -- I'd have used my comment as an opening to tell the group more about > the company, department, team, culture… sell it to us, keeping the tone light > and humorous. Because that's all it was, a light and humorous poke, until > Matt and the others felt compelled to jump to Mark's defense. > > I've been hiring and managing developers for over 10 years, and you wouldn't > believe how many of them forget to ask any questions about the company's > financial health but want to know all about the perks like games, free > drinks, etc. The latter part of my post was a dig at them, not H-P or Mark. > > Lighten up. Seriously. Being professional doesn't mean you have to walk > around with a stick up your ass. > > Andreas > > > On Sep 11, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Patrick Crowley <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey, folks. >> >> SD Ruby is a well-known group of Ruby developers who are widely respected >> for being talented, knowledgeable, and professional. >> >> We don't get these job posts for free. We get them because we've earned >> people's trust.... so don't take them for granted. If you aren't interested >> in a job, don't be a jerk about it. >> >> I share the concerns that others had about what Andreas wrote. >> >> - Would it be appropriate to ask these questions in person during a job >> interview at HP? NO. >> >> - Was he really unsure if the job post was from the same HP that has >> suffered losses and layoffs? NO. >> >> - Did he really care whether or not there was a ping-pong table? NO. >> >> While I think Andreas had no real interest in this job, even if he did, his >> questions could have been phrased more professionally. Is this job safe from >> the next round of layoffs at HP? Is there a fun, creative work environment >> that maybe includes ping-pong tables? etc. >> >> Going forward, please email companies directly when replying to job posts. >> (We may also create a jobs-only mailing list at some point in the future >> too.) >> >> Cheers, >> Patrick >> >> -- >> SD Ruby mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby > > -- > SD Ruby mailing list > [email protected] > http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby -- SD Ruby mailing list [email protected] http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby
