I disagree Colin. I test-drive most of my code and find it very useful. As any other skill it, requieres practice.
I have found that I am more confident "growing" my code guided by test. When I write tests after the fact it always feels like a chore. That said, I dislike tests that are obsessed with mocking everything except the code under tests. I think those tests are brittle and I worry about false green because of drifting apis hidden by mocks. -- Ylan Segal On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Colin Ross wrote: > Yes, I agree with Jarin. > TDD (Test DRIVEN development) as in tests being to main driver to software > development is dead (or, more so imho, never really *lived* in the first > place). Testing code and giving a great importance to having a maintained, > constantly passing, and rigorous test suite is alive and well. This doesn't > discount actually writing a test for a feature before you implement said > feature, which I agree with as a best practice, but test are not a substitute > for the real stakeholder of your product. > > Colin > > On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 4:45:36 PM UTC-7, Jarin Udom wrote: > > I think it should be made clear that whether or not TDD is dead, *testing* > > is still alive and well :) > > > > Jarin > > > > On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 1:51:34 PM UTC-7, Rafael Cardoso wrote: > > > ThoughtWorks is organizing a friendly conversation about the death of TDD > > > between big names in our space. > > > > > > I thought the group would be interested to watch: > > > > > > https://plus.google.com/events/ci2g23mk0lh9too9bgbp3rbut0k > > -- > -- > SD Ruby mailing list > [email protected] > http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SD > Ruby" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > (mailto:[email protected]). > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- SD Ruby mailing list [email protected] http://groups.google.com/group/sdruby --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SD Ruby" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
