[9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
I've downloaded the plan9.iso image twice from
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/download.html

Once about two weeks ago, once today.  Both times I extracted the
plan9.iso.bz2 file to plan9.iso.  Both times I burned the image to a
cd, and both times the program(k3b) told me the image wasn't the same
size as the header suggests??

Upon trying to boot off the cd I get this:

boot from cd :
PBSR...EI
_ - blinking cursor

I've waited, nothing else happens
I hit enter, and my machine reboots back to the above boot from cd :  message.

Any ideas?  Different download site? Any advice?
Thanks in advance,
Terry.



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jun 28 12:27:26 EDT 2013, silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've downloaded the plan9.iso image twice from
 http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/download.html
 
 Once about two weeks ago, once today.  Both times I extracted the
 plan9.iso.bz2 file to plan9.iso.  Both times I burned the image to a
 cd, and both times the program(k3b) told me the image wasn't the same
 size as the header suggests??
 
 Upon trying to boot off the cd I get this:
 
 boot from cd :
 PBSR...EI
 _ - blinking cursor

these are two, unrelated issues.

the .iso size issue should not be a big deal.  there appears to be some
accounting that's off for cd-roms in the plan 9 iso burning software.
(mk9660(8)).

the new boot process can sometimes fail on new hardware.
you might try the 9atom iso

hget http://ftp.9atom.org/other/9atom.iso.bz2

this iso uses the traditional el-torito method.  unfortunately,
the installer is size-constrained (1.44MB) and doesn't support usb.

while the image

hget http://ftp.9atom.org/other/9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

has the new installer which uses bios to access the hard drive
without el-torito emulation, and thus has no size constraints.
while it does fail on more hardware, it does support usb during
the install.

the images

http://ftp.9atom.org/other/+9atom.nboot.iso.bz2
http://ftp.9atom.org/other/+9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

are untested, and shouldn't be used unless you wish to verify
they work.  if you do, please let me know offlist what the
results are.  i keep forgetting to do this.

- erik



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've downloaded the plan9.iso image twice from
 http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/download.html
 
 Once about two weeks ago, once today.  Both times I extracted the
 plan9.iso.bz2 file to plan9.iso.  Both times I burned the image to a
 cd, and both times the program(k3b) told me the image wasn't the same
 size as the header suggests??

I'm confused. Why is the burning software looking inside the iso?



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola

 these are two, unrelated issues.
 
 the .iso size issue should not be a big deal.  there appears to be some
 accounting that's off for cd-roms in the plan 9 iso burning software.
 (mk9660(8)).
 

Wouldn't surprise me, but it seems to work for me. If anyone has a more 
detailed explanation of what is wrong where, I'll take a look at it.
 
 this iso uses the traditional el-torito method.  unfortunately,
 the installer is size-constrained (1.44MB) and doesn't support usb.
 
 while the image
 
hget http://ftp.9atom.org/other/9atom.nboot.iso.bz2
 
 has the new installer which uses bios to access the hard drive
 without el-torito emulation, and thus has no size constraints.
 while it does fail on more hardware, it does support usb during
 the install.

I don't know much about how 9atom works, but the new plan 9 loader uses 
el-torito, but version 3 which lets you access the whole cd as an lba device.

G.




Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
Thank you for your response erik.  The machine I'm trying to boot this
on is an old dell inspiron 530.

Processor - Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2140 @ 1.60 GHz
Ram - 1 GB

I just thought of something... The HD is on the primary cable, and a
DVD and CD are on the secondary.  The DVD drive is the device setup as
a boot device in the BIOS. Anything? Not really, right?

Can I use any of the 9atom images on this PC?  Are they only for
install, or can I use them as live CDs?
I'm downloading:
http://ftp.9atom.org/other/9atom.iso.bz2
http://ftp.9atom.org/other/9atom.nboot.iso.bz2
http://ftp.9atom.org/other/+9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

You included 2 links to that last one. I'll try burning one of each of
these and let you know how the process goes.  I might not get back to
you until later... but I will get back.  If you meant to include a
forth link, resend and I'll grab a copy of that and do the same.

Thanks,
Terry.



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
The file has an actual size on the file system, but the files header
tells the burning app that it has a different size.

This is my guess only...
Terry.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've downloaded the plan9.iso image twice from
 http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/download.html

 Once about two weeks ago, once today.  Both times I extracted the
 plan9.iso.bz2 file to plan9.iso.  Both times I burned the image to a
 cd, and both times the program(k3b) told me the image wasn't the same
 size as the header suggests??

 I'm confused. Why is the burning software looking inside the iso?




Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Paul A. Patience
Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for your response erik.  The machine I'm trying to boot this
 on is an old dell inspiron 530.

9front runs fine on my dell inspiron 530. i have to
boot it with *acpi= in plan9.ini, though.

pap



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
 Wouldn't surprise me, but it seems to work for me.  If anyone has a
 more detailed explanation of what is wrong where, I'll take a look at
 it.

we're now writing the nwa to disk.  this calculation appears to be incorrect.
here's the check in cdfs:

/* reconcile differing nwas */
if (aux-mmcnwa != nwa) {
fprint(2, %s: nwa from drive %,ld != computed nwa %,ld\n,
argv0, aux-mmcnwa, nwa);
fprint(2, \tbe careful!  assuming computed nwa\n);
/* the invisible track may still start at the old nwa. */
// aux-mmcnwa = nwa;
}

  has the new installer which uses bios to access the hard drive
  without el-torito emulation, and thus has no size constraints.
  while it does fail on more hardware, it does support usb during the
  install.
  
 I don't know much about how 9atom works, but the new plan 9 loader
 uses el-torito, but version 3 which lets you access the whole cd as an
 lba device.

9atom uses either 9load (and pre version 3 el torito) or cinap's bios loader.
(this is the .nboot. version of the iso)  the cd appears as a bios disk.  this 
is
likely el torito version 3 under the covers, but that's not the programming
interface.

you can look at the code online /n/atom/plan9/sys/src/cmd/boot/iplpxe/

- erik



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:40:46PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
 
 this iso uses the traditional el-torito method.  unfortunately,
 the installer is size-constrained (1.44MB) and doesn't support usb.
 

FWIW (I implemented El-Torito support for GRUB years ago), the image has
to be some floppy size, and 2.88MB is perfectly supported.

There is also hd emulation, but this it seems not to be widely 
supported by BIOSes.

-- 
Thierry Laronde tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com
  http://www.kergis.com/
Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89  250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:19 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:

  Wouldn't surprise me, but it seems to work for me.  If anyone has a
  more detailed explanation of what is wrong where, I'll take a look at
  it.

 we're now writing the nwa to disk.  this calculation appears to be
 incorrect.
 here's the check in cdfs:

 /* reconcile differing nwas */
 if (aux-mmcnwa != nwa) {
 fprint(2, %s: nwa from drive %,ld != computed nwa %,ld\n,
 argv0, aux-mmcnwa, nwa);
 fprint(2, \tbe careful!  assuming computed nwa\n);
 /* the invisible track may still start at the old nwa. */
 // aux-mmcnwa = nwa;
 }


Maybe I am not understanding. We were talking about mkisofs which generates
an iso file.
This is cdfs check for the first writable block of the track, which has to
do with burning it.
An iso is burnt inside a track and is mostly independent from the details
of what tracks exist.
Terry downloaded the iso, and tried to burn it in linux. If something is
wrong it would be
in the iso file generated, which does not have to do anything with cdfs.
G.


[9fans] Tried 9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
This was a fail to boot.

It actually gets to:
Booting from CD:
...
then reboots the pc
goes through BIOS screen
Booting from CD:
...
over and over.

Next I'll try the 9atom.iso.bz2

Foolish newbie question: I am supposed to unzip the image before
burning it, right?  Just making sure I'm not doing something and not
letting you know.  I sure that's the procedure, just being thorough.

Thanks,
Terry.

pap: If you can give me a link to get 9front, I'll try that to.  Thanks.



Re: [9fans] Tried 9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
 Foolish newbie question: I am supposed to unzip the image before
 burning it, right?  Just making sure I'm not doing something and not
 letting you know.  I sure that's the procedure, just being thorough.

bunzip the image before burning.  :-)

- erik



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
If its any help, when I select 9atom.nboot.iso within K3b to burn to
disc, it reports the filesize as 360.9 MB but the declared volume size
as 721.7 GB.

Interesting.
Terry.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:19 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net
 wrote:

  Wouldn't surprise me, but it seems to work for me.  If anyone has a
  more detailed explanation of what is wrong where, I'll take a look at
  it.

 we're now writing the nwa to disk.  this calculation appears to be
 incorrect.
 here's the check in cdfs:

 /* reconcile differing nwas */
 if (aux-mmcnwa != nwa) {
 fprint(2, %s: nwa from drive %,ld != computed nwa
 %,ld\n,
 argv0, aux-mmcnwa, nwa);
 fprint(2, \tbe careful!  assuming computed nwa\n);
 /* the invisible track may still start at the old nwa. */
 // aux-mmcnwa = nwa;
 }


 Maybe I am not understanding. We were talking about mkisofs which generates
 an iso file.
 This is cdfs check for the first writable block of the track, which has to
 do with burning it.
 An iso is burnt inside a track and is mostly independent from the details of
 what tracks exist.
 Terry downloaded the iso, and tried to burn it in linux. If something is
 wrong it would be
 in the iso file generated, which does not have to do anything with cdfs.
 G.





Re: [9fans] Tried 9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
I did, just wanted to make sure... I'm also writing the discs using
DAO. Correct?
I'm more or less following the same procedure I would for a linux distro.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM, erik quanstrom
quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote:
 Foolish newbie question: I am supposed to unzip the image before
 burning it, right?  Just making sure I'm not doing something and not
 letting you know.  I sure that's the procedure, just being thorough.

 bunzip the image before burning.  :-)

 - erik




Re: [9fans] Tried 9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jun 28 13:57:37 EDT 2013, silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote:
 I did, just wanted to make sure... I'm also writing the discs using
 DAO. Correct?
 I'm more or less following the same procedure I would for a linux distro.

that's right.

- erik



Re: [9fans] Tried 9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

2013-06-28 Thread Matthew Veety
 pap: If you can give me a link to get 9front, I'll try that to.  Thanks.

I am not pap (nor a suitable alternative), but you can get 9front at 
http://9front.org . Also has nice links to our wiki.

--
Veety


Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:38 PM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:40:46PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
 
  this iso uses the traditional el-torito method.  unfortunately,
  the installer is size-constrained (1.44MB) and doesn't support usb.
 

 FWIW (I implemented El-Torito support for GRUB years ago), the image has
 to be some floppy size, and 2.88MB is perfectly supported.

 There is also hd emulation, but this it seems not to be widely
 supported by BIOSes.


There are various ways of booting with El-torito.

http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/specscdrom.pdf

One of the ways is non-emulation (I thought it had appeared in a later
version of El-torito,
but checking the spec it was already in version 1,  1995), the byte 1 in
page
19, description in page 16.

Mkisofs lets you create a non-emulation bootable image (see
/sys/src/cmd/disk/9660/boot.c:166, which is set with -B) or an emulation
image.
Emulation goes hand in hand with pbsraw.s.

It used to be that many BIOSes did not support non-emu, but that has not
been true
AFAIK for a long while (at least more than 10 years). As long as you have
the blocks 2M aligned you should be fine with most modern BIOSes.

I think the problem is that the Plan 9 iso is somewhat different than k3b
expects
and it is fixing it, although as I said, the iso format is complex enough
and has enough
variants that there may be some error somewhere or the BIOS may have a
bug...

G.


Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
 generates an iso file.  This is cdfs check for the first writable
 block of the track, which has to do with burning it.  An iso is burnt
 inside a track and is mostly independent from the details of what
 tracks exist.  Terry downloaded the iso, and tried to burn it in
 linux.  If something is wrong it would be in the iso file generated,
 which does not have to do anything with cdfs.  G.

/sys/src/cmd/disk/9660/dump9660.c:316,326
if(mk9660){
/*
 * Patch in root directories.
 */
setroot(cd, cd-iso9660pvd, iroot.block, iroot.length);
  setvolsize(cd, cd-iso9660pvd, (vlong)cd-nextblock * 
 Blocksize);
if(cd-flags  CDjoliet){
setroot(cd, cd-jolietsvd, jroot.block, jroot.length);
setvolsize(cd, cd-jolietsvd,
(vlong)cd-nextblock * Blocksize);
}

- erik



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:38 PM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:40:46PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
 
  this iso uses the tradition

 Emulation goes hand in hand with pbsraw.s.


I mean emulation goes hand in hand with pbs.s (emulated, inside the floppy)
or pbsraw.s (non emulated,
used by the cd itself for booting).

G.


Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola

 the blocks 2M aligned you should be fine with most modern BIOSes.


I meant 2K aligned.


On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 If its any help, when I select 9atom.nboot.iso within K3b to burn to
 disc, it reports the filesize as 360.9 MB but the declared volume size
 as 721.7 GB.


This is very interesting because it is exactly double

  setvolsize(cd, cd-iso9660pvd, (vlong)cd-nextblock *
Blocksize);

Yes, the volume size is set here, but I don't see any at least obvious
error. Everything seems to
be counted rightly in 2K blocks. Are you pointing to an error? because I
cannot see it...

G.


Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma-119.pdf

page 19:


Volume Space Size (BP 81 to 88)
This field shall specify as a 32-bit number the number of Logical Blocks in
which the Volume Space of the
volume is recorded.
This field shall be recorded according to 7.3.3.


Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  If its any help, when I select 9atom.nboot.iso within K3b to burn to
  disc, it reports the filesize as 360.9 MB but the declared volume size
  as 721.7 GB.
 
 
 This is very interesting because it is exactly double
 
   setvolsize(cd, cd-iso9660pvd, (vlong)cd-nextblock *
 Blocksize);
 
 Yes, the volume size is set here, but I don't see any at least obvious
 error. Everything seems to
 be counted rightly in 2K blocks. Are you pointing to an error? because I
 cannot see it...

the original claim was, the size was not set by mk9660.  i was
showing where it is set.

and yes, if this calculation is wrong, then here it is.  perhaps volsize
is in kb.  :-)

- erik



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
So... looking at the standard, the problem may be that
the volume size is in bytes instead of in blocks?

When I xd a plan 9 image (bytes are represented in little and
big endian):

0008000  01434430 30310100 504c414e 20392042
0008010  4f4f5420 49534f39 36363020 20202020
0008020  20202020 20202020 504c414e 2039202d
0008030  204d4159 20372032 30313220 32333a32
0008040  33202020 20202020  
0008050  00305600 00563000  
^^ ^^^
volume size in bytes (should this be in logical blocks?)

0008060     
0008070    0101 0101
0008080  00080800 0a00 000a c60a
^ 
Block size, 2K

0008090   0ac7  2200c20a
00080a0   0ac20010  10007005
00080b0  07151737 0002 0101 01003956


The size of the iso given by ls is 5656576, 0x00565000
which is close enough to 0x563000 in bytes.

 I xd a 90M linux iso I have and got:

0008000  01434430 30310100 4c494e55 58202020
0008010  20202020 20202020 20202020 20202020
0008020  20202020 20202020 4344524f 4d202020
0008030  20202020 20202020 20202020 20202020
0008040  20202020 20202020  
0008050  fdb3 b3fd  
 ^

90M/2K

0008060     
0008070    0101 0101
0008080  00080800 0a00 000a 1400
  ^
2K block size
0008090   0016  22001800
00080a0   00180008  08006b05
00080b0  1808100a 2002 0101 01002020

So the size should be in Blocks and it is in bytes, this is why it is wrong.

I don't understand why k3b reports double the size because it
is much more. Unless I am not seeing something...

G.






On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma-119.pdf

 page 19:


 Volume Space Size (BP 81 to 88)
 This field shall specify as a 32-bit number the number of Logical Blocks
 in which the Volume Space of the
 volume is recorded.
 This field shall be recorded according to 7.3.3.







-- 
- curiosity sKilled the cat


Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
So, the proposed change would be to take out the *Blocksize from the last
parameter of setvolsize
in the calls. Can someone test it with, say... k3b and see if it improves
something?
I still don't understand why it would report a *2 difference...

G.


Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Agh, now I see it, I thought the units was the same, but it was actually 2K
the difference.

  360.9 MB but the declared volume size
^^^
 as 721.7 GB.
^^^

So all is explained.
Ok, I'll create a patch.

G.



On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote:


 So, the proposed change would be to take out the *Blocksize from the last
 parameter of setvolsize
 in the calls. Can someone test it with, say... k3b and see if it improves
 something?
 I still don't understand why it would report a *2 difference...

 G.




-- 
- curiosity sKilled the cat


Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
I created the patch mkisovolsize.

G.


[9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
K3b actually said 721.7 GB. As in Gigabytes.

So, I've downloaded, burned, and tried to install the following iso images:

9front-2688.28a9914426a3.iso (I used Brasero to burn the cd, no size complaints)
+9atom.iso
9atom.iso
9atom.nboot.iso
plan9.iso

None actually booted, but some got farther then others.

Results:

plan9.iso - PBSR...EI  as far as it got and froze
9atom.nboot.iso - circular reboot
+9atom.iso - circular reboot
9atom.iso - booted from cd, got to choose option 2(boot from cd),
these are the last few lines:

ehci 0xe0001000: port3 didn't reset within 500ms; status 0x1101
ehci 0xe0001000: port4 didn't reset within 500ms; status 0x1101
usb/kb... usb/kb... root is from(il, tcp, local)[local!#S/sdD0/data]:
cpu0: spurious interupt 39, last 11

I hit enter after about 3 minutes of no action...
kfs...version...time...
init: starting /bin/rc

Nothing else ever happened, even after lots of key-presses.

9front.iso - never gave me an option to run from cd or install, it
just started launching itself.
Several screens of info and it stop on this line:
bootargs is (tcp, il, local!device)[local!dev/sdD0/data] _
blinking cursor, doa!

I burned all the iso images with K3b, with the exception of 9front. I
used brasero for that and brasero did not complain about file size and
volume size not matching.  However, when I open 9front up in K3b, it
does complain that the filesize is 530.9 MiB, while the volume size is
reported as 1 TiB.

Gorka - The reason I asked about whether or not I should be unzipping
the iso is the plan9 install instruction have a line thus:
boot from: sdC1!cdboot!9pcflop.gz
I realize that's probably a floppy sized gzipped boot image on the cd,
my question made me feel like a dolt, but I don't mind that too much.
Anyway, next steps?
Terry.



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Matthew Veety

 Anyway, next steps?
 Terry.
 

Hit enter at the 9front bootargs prompt. 




Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:26:51 CDT Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 K3b actually said 721.7 GB. As in Gigabytes.

It really has no business looking into a .iso when all it is
doing is copying it to a CD. On FreeBSD I can just do

burncd -f /dev/acd0 data plan9.iso fixate

 ehci 0xe0001000: port3 didn't reset within 500ms; status 0x1101
 ehci 0xe0001000: port4 didn't reset within 500ms; status 0x1101
 usb/kb... usb/kb... root is from(il, tcp, local)[local!#S/sdD0/data]:
 cpu0: spurious interupt 39, last 11

I am guessing either some acpi related setting or a bad CD drive.
I have not been lucky with CD drives. Especially on old laptops.

One thing you can try to isolate the problem is to bring up
plan9 from the cd in a virtual machine (qemu or virtual box or
something).



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Terry Wendt
silicon.pengui...@gmail.comwrote:

 K3b actually said 721.7 GB. As in Gigabytes.



Yes, 720GB/360MB is 2K. The size complains are fixed by my patch.
I can't generate an image now, but that problem should be fixed for the
future.
In any case, I don't think it affects the images you burnt with brasero at
least.




 So, I've downloaded, burned, and tried to install the following iso images:

 9front-2688.28a9914426a3.iso (I used Brasero to burn the cd, no size
 complaints)
 +9atom.iso
 9atom.iso
 9atom.nboot.iso
 plan9.iso

 None actually booted, but some got farther then others.

 Results:

 plan9.iso - PBSR...EI  as far as it got and froze


This is an error reported by the bios. This does not have to do with the
other error. This has to do with something bad happening when the BIOS
is accessing the drive. My guess is the BIOS is buggy, the cd is wrong
(physically)
or the reader is wrong, but it may be some bug interacting with the
hardware.


 9front.iso


I don't know much about about 9atom or 9front, but they are quite different
from
plan9 in the way it boots. Other people are more qualified than me to answer
questions about both.



 I burned all the iso images with K3b, with the exception of 9front. I
 used brasero for that and brasero did not complain about file size and
 volume size not matching.  However, when I open 9front up in K3b, it
 does complain that the filesize is 530.9 MiB, while the volume size is
 reported as 1 TiB.


This is again 1TB/530MB - 2K, so mkisofs is the most probable culprit,
but again, this should not affect the booting.




 Gorka - The reason I asked about whether or not I should be unzipping
 the iso is the plan9 install instruction have a line thus:
 boot from: sdC1!cdboot!9pcflop.gz
 I realize that's probably a floppy sized gzipped boot image on the cd,


This is the compressed kernel inside the image.


 Anyway, next steps?


 I would recommend either a virtual machine like Bakul says or, if possible
change the CD drive. You could try also booting from USB, I don't know
if there are any usb images laying around...

G.


Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
I did that, nothing.  I thought I might need to enter something, so I
browsed the plan9 install instructions, then tried to enter something
but no characters echoed.

Terry.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyway, next steps?
 Terry.


 Hit enter at the 9front bootargs prompt.





Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
I'm using GRUB2, and I have an empty primary partition.  I'm thinking
about using grub to install it.  It's worth a shot!

Thanks,
Terry.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:26:51 CDT Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 K3b actually said 721.7 GB. As in Gigabytes.

 It really has no business looking into a .iso when all it is
 doing is copying it to a CD. On FreeBSD I can just do

 burncd -f /dev/acd0 data plan9.iso fixate

 ehci 0xe0001000: port3 didn't reset within 500ms; status 0x1101
 ehci 0xe0001000: port4 didn't reset within 500ms; status 0x1101
 usb/kb... usb/kb... root is from(il, tcp, local)[local!#S/sdD0/data]:
 cpu0: spurious interupt 39, last 11

 I am guessing either some acpi related setting or a bad CD drive.
 I have not been lucky with CD drives. Especially on old laptops.

 One thing you can try to isolate the problem is to bring up
 plan9 from the cd in a virtual machine (qemu or virtual box or
 something).




[9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
 Anyway, next steps?


 I would recommend either a virtual machine like Bakul says or, if possible
 change the CD drive. You could try also booting from USB, I don't know
 if there are any usb images laying around...

I'm starting to think maybe the dvd drive is buggy.
I'll probably swap the cd and dvd.  If that doesn't help, I'll try the
grub install.

Thanks again 9fans,
Terry.



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
 It really has no business looking into a .iso when all it is
 doing is copying it to a CD. On FreeBSD I can just do
 
 burncd -f /dev/acd0 data plan9.iso fixate
 
  ehci 0xe0001000: port3 didn't reset within 500ms; status 0x1101
  ehci 0xe0001000: port4 didn't reset within 500ms; status 0x1101
  usb/kb... usb/kb... root is from(il, tcp, local)[local!#S/sdD0/data]:
  cpu0: spurious interupt 39, last 11
 
 I am guessing either some acpi related setting or a bad CD drive.
 I have not been lucky with CD drives. Especially on old laptops.

no that looks good.  the spurious irq messages can be ignored.
(sorry, though.)  hit return and the install should continue.  unless
D0 (secondary master) drive isn't the one with the dvd drive.

- erik



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Paul A . Patience
did you enable *acpi= when booting 9front?
see the section Boot at [1].

pap

[1] http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/troubleshooting



Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread sl
 9front.iso - never gave me an option to run from cd or install, it
 just started launching itself.
 Several screens of info and it stop on this line:
 bootargs is (tcp, il, local!device)[local!dev/sdD0/data] _
 blinking cursor, doa!

Press enter.

-sl