Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Steve D]

Heh... I got to troubleshoot an Optaphone last summer.  Absolutely nothing
wrong with the equipment, just a n connector that wasn't sealed properly by
the operators doing their own maintenance or something and took on some
water.  I recall that it had been installed circa 2002 in this particular
application but some documentation on it indicated the hardware was older
than that.  Having zero prior experience I was trying to find any info I
could, don't think I figured out exactly how to read rx levels.

-Steve D

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> We installed Optophones in Santa Ana and Coleman Texas!!!  Damn small
> world
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 21, 2015 3:13 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>>   I know a guy that used to modify cordless phones back in about 1990.
>> Garberville California.  His name was Nat.  He could get 5 miles out of
>> those things.  At the time Jim Carlson was selling TVs and hot tubs.  Jim
>> decided to make a higher powered (2 watts) UHF version called the
>> OptaPhone.  I bought one of the first OptaPhones.  Immediately told him how
>> it needed to be improved and then went to work for him.  (that was during
>> one of my many breaks from the Beehive crows).
>>
>>  *From:* Jaime Solorza 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:27 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
>>
>>  speaking of legal.   I hear the Mennonites in Cuahtemoc Chih have their
>> own long range cordless telephone system using 200=300MHz systems from
>> Senao/Engenius with 100 ft. towers.  they use as two way radio as well.
>>
>>  Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  My take on it is that it is a "semi-off-the-shelf" way to do broadband
>>> in the 420-450 MHz band.  Might have twice the foliage-penetrating
>>> capability of 900 MHz.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
>>>
>>>  Jaime,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What, exactly, can we do with this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Jaime Solorza]

We installed Optophones in Santa Ana and Coleman Texas!!!  Damn small world

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 3:13 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

>   I know a guy that used to modify cordless phones back in about 1990.
> Garberville California.  His name was Nat.  He could get 5 miles out of
> those things.  At the time Jim Carlson was selling TVs and hot tubs.  Jim
> decided to make a higher powered (2 watts) UHF version called the
> OptaPhone.  I bought one of the first OptaPhones.  Immediately told him how
> it needed to be improved and then went to work for him.  (that was during
> one of my many breaks from the Beehive crows).
>
>  *From:* Jaime Solorza 
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:27 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
>
>  speaking of legal.   I hear the Mennonites in Cuahtemoc Chih have their
> own long range cordless telephone system using 200=300MHz systems from
> Senao/Engenius with 100 ft. towers.  they use as two way radio as well.
>
>  Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>>  My take on it is that it is a "semi-off-the-shelf" way to do broadband
>> in the 420-450 MHz band.  Might have twice the foliage-penetrating
>> capability of 900 MHz.
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>>  On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
>>
>>  Jaime,
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
>>
>>
>>
>> What, exactly, can we do with this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Chuck McCown]

I know a guy that used to modify cordless phones back in about 1990.  
Garberville California.  His name was Nat.  He could get 5 miles out of those 
things.  At the time Jim Carlson was selling TVs and hot tubs.  Jim decided to 
make a higher powered (2 watts) UHF version called the OptaPhone.  I bought one 
of the first OptaPhones.  Immediately told him how it needed to be improved and 
then went to work for him.  (that was during one of my many breaks from the 
Beehive crows).  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:27 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

speaking of legal.   I hear the Mennonites in Cuahtemoc Chih have their own 
long range cordless telephone system using 200=300MHz systems from 
Senao/Engenius with 100 ft. towers.  they use as two way radio as well.   

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

  My take on it is that it is a "semi-off-the-shelf" way to do broadband in the 
420-450 MHz band.  Might have twice the foliage-penetrating capability of 900 
MHz.


bp


On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:

Jaime,



Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?



What, exactly, can we do with this?



Jaime Solorza

On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[TJ Trout]

Show me 100w amp that will work on this? Then you need the same amp on the
customer side. These cards are old news
On Feb 21, 2015 11:04 AM, "Philip Rankin"  wrote:

> Paul, Absolutely not legal for any commercial purpose and can only be used
> by a licensed amateur radio operator, not the general public in any way!!!
> I doubt that even the Ham operator can even access the general Internet
> with it legally!  But, as a Ham, and as a tinkerer, it would be really
> interesting to see what 100 watts at 420MHz would do through trees at say,
> 25 or more miles with a decent tower site.  As an experiment, it might give
> a guy a little more insight into our commercially legal operations that we
> all use today.  And then again, it might just be an exercise in futility!
>  :)  I may mess with it some!
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>>  Would it be  usable for commercial purposes?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:22 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
>>
>>
>>
>> Well if you have a HAM license for this band you can transmit data in the
>> 420 to 450MHz band US or 430 to 450MHz Europe at very high power levels
>> using 5 and 10MHz channels!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> They use an approach used by many to up or down convert a frequency from
>> say 2.4GHz down to 902-928MHz..  eg  .(Shireen, Teletronics, others) using
>> an external UDC or Ubiquiti's 3.65GHz down converted from 5GHz band
>> internally.   Old School one was Solectek taking 902.928MHz NCR WaveLAN
>> signal into a Transverter which gave you three channels at 2.4GHz back in
>> the 90s.   Most modern RF systems use an IF frequency which is up converted
>> to desired one.   This is a source of potential interference if not
>> properly shielded.  simple example is what 100 base LAN connections do to
>> VHF two way radio stations when they are on same tower.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was actually playing around Solecteck Transverter the other
>> day...cleaned it up and going to see if it works.   I only have some  WiLAN
>> 900 MHz radios to test so I will have to attenuate signal since I can't get
>> into the settings of these anymore.   I use them to send a signal and
>> adjust my SAI am surprised they still work
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>>
>> Jaime,
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
>>
>>
>>
>> What, exactly, can we do with this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Philip J. Rankin
> Wireless Telecommunications Services
> PO Box 24
> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Philip Rankin]

Paul, Absolutely not legal for any commercial purpose and can only be used
by a licensed amateur radio operator, not the general public in any way!!!
I doubt that even the Ham operator can even access the general Internet
with it legally!  But, as a Ham, and as a tinkerer, it would be really
interesting to see what 100 watts at 420MHz would do through trees at say,
25 or more miles with a decent tower site.  As an experiment, it might give
a guy a little more insight into our commercially legal operations that we
all use today.  And then again, it might just be an exercise in futility!
 :)  I may mess with it some!


On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

>  Would it be  usable for commercial purposes?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:22 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read
>
>
>
> Well if you have a HAM license for this band you can transmit data in the
> 420 to 450MHz band US or 430 to 450MHz Europe at very high power levels
> using 5 and 10MHz channels!!!
>
>
>
> They use an approach used by many to up or down convert a frequency from
> say 2.4GHz down to 902-928MHz..  eg  .(Shireen, Teletronics, others) using
> an external UDC or Ubiquiti's 3.65GHz down converted from 5GHz band
> internally.   Old School one was Solectek taking 902.928MHz NCR WaveLAN
> signal into a Transverter which gave you three channels at 2.4GHz back in
> the 90s.   Most modern RF systems use an IF frequency which is up converted
> to desired one.   This is a source of potential interference if not
> properly shielded.  simple example is what 100 base LAN connections do to
> VHF two way radio stations when they are on same tower.
>
>
>
> I was actually playing around Solecteck Transverter the other
> day...cleaned it up and going to see if it works.   I only have some  WiLAN
> 900 MHz radios to test so I will have to attenuate signal since I can't get
> into the settings of these anymore.   I use them to send a signal and
> adjust my SAI am surprised they still work
>
>
>
>
>   Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> Jaime,
>
>
>
> Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
>
>
>
> What, exactly, can we do with this?
>
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Jaime Solorza]

speaking of legal.   I hear the Mennonites in Cuahtemoc Chih have their own
long range cordless telephone system using 200=300MHz systems from
Senao/Engenius with 100 ft. towers.  they use as two way radio as well.

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

>  My take on it is that it is a "semi-off-the-shelf" way to do broadband
> in the 420-450 MHz band.  Might have twice the foliage-penetrating
> capability of 900 MHz.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
>
>  Jaime,
>
>
>
> Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
>
>
>
> What, exactly, can we do with this?
>
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Paul McCall]

Would it be  usable for commercial purposes?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:22 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

Well if you have a HAM license for this band you can transmit data in the 420 
to 450MHz band US or 430 to 450MHz Europe at very high power levels using 5 and 
10MHz channels!!!

They use an approach used by many to up or down convert a frequency from say 
2.4GHz down to 902-928MHz..  eg  .(Shireen, Teletronics, others) using an 
external UDC or Ubiquiti's 3.65GHz down converted from 5GHz band internally.   
Old School one was Solectek taking 902.928MHz NCR WaveLAN signal into a 
Transverter which gave you three channels at 2.4GHz back in the 90s.   Most 
modern RF systems use an IF frequency which is up converted to desired one.   
This is a source of potential interference if not properly shielded.  simple 
example is what 100 base LAN connections do to VHF two way radio stations when 
they are on same tower.

I was actually playing around Solecteck Transverter the other day...cleaned it 
up and going to see if it works.   I only have some  WiLAN 900 MHz radios to 
test so I will have to attenuate signal since I can't get into the settings of 
these anymore.   I use them to send a signal and adjust my SAI am surprised 
they still work


Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Paul McCall 
mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
Jaime,

Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?

What, exactly, can we do with this?


Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Jaime Solorza]

Well if you have a HAM license for this band you can transmit data in the
420 to 450MHz band US or 430 to 450MHz Europe at very high power levels
using 5 and 10MHz channels!!!

They use an approach used by many to up or down convert a frequency from
say 2.4GHz down to 902-928MHz..  eg  .(Shireen, Teletronics, others) using
an external UDC or Ubiquiti's 3.65GHz down converted from 5GHz band
internally.   Old School one was Solectek taking 902.928MHz NCR WaveLAN
signal into a Transverter which gave you three channels at 2.4GHz back in
the 90s.   Most modern RF systems use an IF frequency which is up converted
to desired one.   This is a source of potential interference if not
properly shielded.  simple example is what 100 base LAN connections do to
VHF two way radio stations when they are on same tower.

I was actually playing around Solecteck Transverter the other day...cleaned
it up and going to see if it works.   I only have some  WiLAN 900 MHz
radios to test so I will have to attenuate signal since I can't get into
the settings of these anymore.   I use them to send a signal and adjust my
SAI am surprised they still work


Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

>  Jaime,
>
>
>
> Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
>
>
>
> What, exactly, can we do with this?
>
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Jason McKemie]

And not legal for commercial use I'm sure...

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

>  My take on it is that it is a "semi-off-the-shelf" way to do broadband
> in the 420-450 MHz band.  Might have twice the foliage-penetrating
> capability of 900 MHz.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:
>
>  Jaime,
>
>
>
> Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?
>
>
>
> What, exactly, can we do with this?
>
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Bill Prince]

My take on it is that it is a "semi-off-the-shelf" way to do broadband 
in the 420-450 MHz band. Might have twice the foliage-penetrating 
capability of 900 MHz.


bp


On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:


Jaime,

Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?

What, exactly, can we do with this?

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote:


http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html

Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390 

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Paul McCall]

Jaime,

Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?

What, exactly, can we do with this?


Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Jaime Solorza]

yeppers...I think our military uses something similar in 300MHz band using
Atheros based transceiver and UDC from ???.   I said too much

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Philip Rankin 
wrote:

> As an old time Ham Operator, it would be pretty cool to operate a data
> station at 420MHz using 100 watts or more!  I intend to research it more.
> On Feb 21, 2015 10:53 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> Well I found it interesting
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Philip Rankin]

As an old time Ham Operator, it would be pretty cool to operate a data
station at 420MHz using 100 watts or more!  I intend to research it more.
On Feb 21, 2015 10:53 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Well I found it interesting
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Jaime Solorza]

Well I found it interesting

Jaime Solorza
On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>