RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-02 Thread John E. Coleman (ARS WA5BXO)
The Best measurement I ever got was using a dummy load of know resistive
accuracy.  I used a new Cantenna from heath kit.  I said new because if
over heated once they can change resistance.  The older one seemed to be
better.  Anyway, I removed the little box cover on the top and stripped out
the circuitry in it.  Then I mounted a 7 pin socket in the top cover of the
box. Plugged in a 6AL5 and connected a plate to the top connection of the 50
ohm resistor dummy load brought the filament wires out to a 6.3v XFMR and
connected to corresponding cathode to the RCA phono plug that was on the
side of the little box.  I then bypassed the cathode connection with a .01uf
ceramic capacitor rated at 1000v and no bleader.  

The theory is that the 6AL5 diode has very little plate to cathode
capacitance (used a lot in the older RF probes by HP).  It provides a very
accurate rectification of the RF and will charge the capacitor to a very
accurate peak of the RF voltage.  The DC voltage can be measured by any good
accurate DC voltmeter and will be a representation of the peak RF. 

Calculation as follows:

Convert the measured DC to RMS of RF by multiplying time 0.707

Power formula

(Erms * Erms) / 50ohms = Power

Somebody check me on this, because it has been awhile, but I think this all
reduces to

Epeak squared divided by 100

(DC * DC) / 100 = Power



 I have checked this all the way up to 10 meters against several of the bird
watt meters owned by FCC commercial licensed companies doing TYPE acceptance
checks.  It is as accurate as the dummy load and voltmeter that you have.

GL,73
John, WA5BXO




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What is everyone doing for a watt meter?
My swan wm-3000 blew up last weekend, it reads no pep
and about 1/4 of the correct average power.
I could fix it if I could find out what diodes they used (3 gone),
and one of the little inducters broke, but it 
would not be calibrated.
It was a good meter, 4 scales going up to 2kw, real pep
reading, large meter, but its toast.

Looking around, not much out there that does high continuous power,
real pep readings, looks good, etc.
I went to ham radio outlet in Delaware today (working close by) and 
despite waiting for almost an hour, could not get much help.
They would not let me open a box of a daiwa meter, and I hate the cross
needle meters anyway, they had a diamond, not true pep, but I 
could not look at that, they wont unseal a box unless you buy it.
That and the poor service had me walk out of the store 
vowing never to buy anything from them, ever.

Some web searching turns up CB type meters, not good at lower
frequencies, or discontinued units.
Nye viking used to make a good one, but not anymore.

The 813 rig can do well over the 1500 watt pep level,
well over 2000 watts pep with the neg cycle loading 
deck hooked up, so I need something good for the power.
MFJ makes one, but the manual shows its only good for
500 watts 100% duty cycle, 600 or 700 watts of carrier means 
90 second transmissions (how cheap that mfj stuff is).

Not much on ebay but old heathket meters...

Brett
N2DTS


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Re: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-02 Thread Rev. Don Sanders
My watt meters use 1N82 and 1N60's for diodes so a good germanium diode
should work. I just replaced the 1N82 in my Collins 302C after powering up
with antenna disconnected- won't do that again.

Healthfully yours,
  DON W4BWS
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 If I could find out the diode type, I could replace them,
 the inductor looks to be a match with another one
 (forward/reflected?).
 It's a small potted thing, almost looks like a cross
 between a resistor and a small electrolytic cap.

 I don't know how you would calibrate it for average and pep,
 the average I could do off another working meter.

 I use the watt meter partly as a performance monitor, its right
 in front of the operating position, so if the swr goes wacko,
 or the audio screws up, the meter will show it.

 I have a regular scan of the plate current, grid current,
 watt meter, mod monitor when I first get on, then every once
 and a while do a re-scan.
 There is a hole in my scan now!

 Brett
 N2DTS

 
  I have a Bird 4411 which uses one slug for 2-30 Mcy.  The
  meter has a switch
  that will change the power scale from 10 watts to 10K watts.
 
  It is not a true peak meter but there is a formula that
  derives it in the
  book.  The 4411 is a 4410 with provisions for AC input, the
  4410 is 9V
  battery powered only, I think.  The drawback to these meters
  is you usually
  find the meter without the slug, and the meter is expensive.
  I have seen
  them at hamfests, but the slug is hard to find and very
  expensive.  It is
  accurate to 5% of full scale.
 
  As for the diodes most any matched diodes would probably
  work.  Seems as if
  the Drake MN 2000 had 1N295 or some such.  Someone with a
  manual could
  check.  Get a handful of the NTE replacements and match them,
  they are
  inexpensive.
 
  73  Jim
  W5JO
 

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[AMRadio] Marconi (Canada)Filter

2006-03-02 Thread BILL WINTER
Does anyone have info on a Canadian Marconi filter type 95528
spec # 95542 ?
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Greetings!

I have made the AM mods to my FT-101EX. I bought the AM filter
from INRAD. I bought the 160 meter and 10 meter crystals
from JAN. I spent more on that stuff than I did on the radio.. :-|

I performed the AM window mods (sounds pretty good)
for both receive and transmit.

I hope to use the rig primarily on ten meter ayem

Sooo.the rig divides up the ten meter band into four segments,
but NOWHERE in my manual does it say WHAT these segments
are!!! Are they 500Khz? What? Does anyone know? I suppose I could
wait till I get the crystals and see for myself, but you would think that
the manual would have the infomaybe mine is missing pages(?).

Thanks es

73 de Dan -- WAØJRD ..


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Re: [AMRadio] Yaesu FT-101E

2006-03-02 Thread W5OMR/Geoff

Dan Wright wrote:



Greetings!

I have made the AM mods to my FT-101EX. I bought the AM filter
from INRAD. I bought the 160 meter and 10 meter crystals
from JAN. I spent more on that stuff than I did on the radio.. :-|

I performed the AM window mods (sounds pretty good)
for both receive and transmit.

I hope to use the rig primarily on ten meter ayem

Sooo.the rig divides up the ten meter band into four segments,
but NOWHERE in my manual does it say WHAT these segments
are!!! Are they 500Khz? What? Does anyone know? I suppose I could
wait till I get the crystals and see for myself, but you would think that
the manual would have the infomaybe mine is missing pages(?).



typically, yes...

10A 28.0 ~ 28.5
10B 28.5 ~ 29.0 
10C 29.0 ~ 29.5

10D 29.5 ~ 30.0 (top end, of course, is 29.7)

Near as I can tell, the xtals needed for the FT-101 series rigs, starts 
at 34.020 Mc, and increase by 500kc from there.


ie:
Band 10A = 34.020 = 28.0 ~ 28.5
Band 10B = 34.520 = 28.5 ~ 29.0
Band 10C = 35.020 = 29.0 ~ 29.5
Band 10D = 35.050 = 29.5 ~ 30.0 Mc

Hope that helps.

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[AMRadio] HP-1741A

2006-03-02 Thread W5OMR/Geoff

Operating your AM Rig without a Scope,
is like driving your car at night, without headlights
(~ Don Chester/K4KYV Then editor AM Press Exchange)

Speaking of scopes, I've got a Hewlitt-Packard 1741A 100MHz dual trace 
Persistance scope here, for sale, if someone wants one.


$200(obo) + shipping from 78223.  You tell me which carrier you want.
(the manual alone, is selling for $50 on the 'net)

Comes with:
Two probes
Original manual
Extra 'blue' CRT lens
field viewing hood (for blocking daylight)


DESCRIPTION
The ease-of-use and reliability that the 1741A Variable Persistence 
Storage Oscilloscope delivers has continued to make it a highly desired 
instrument covering a wide range of applications. Sensitivity of 5 mV to 
20 V/div., 100 ms to over 1 minute of variable persistence and up to 1 
hour of storage for outstanding signal viewing. Sweep rates of 50 ns to 
2 S/div are available. Its ability to retain a trace on the screen 
(persistence) is available from 100 ms to over 1 minute and up to 1 hour 
of storage is also provided! This type of storage is essential for those 
one-shot opportunities (non-recurring signals).


Other features include:
minimum blind time and auto-intensity circuitry,
third channel trigger view, and
selectable input impedance.
Bandwidth: 100MHz

This scope has been seen without any 'extras' on-line, for as high as 
$600 (current prices)


Contact me off-list.

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[AMRadio] Free for taking: RCA BTA-1L Scranton PA

2006-03-02 Thread Rob Atkinson, K5UJ

Following is posted with permission

Free for the taking:

RCA AM broadcast tx located at Entercom property in Scranton PA.
Must be moved ASAP or it goes into landfill.
RCA BTA-1L

For information

Contact Lamar Smith, DOE of Entercom there at

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please do not contact me--I am not connected with Entercom and am only 
attempting to facilitate the avoidance of another vintage AM broadcast tx 
going into a dump.


rob atkinson
k5uj

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Re: [AMRadio] Yaesu FT-101E

2006-03-02 Thread Brian Carling
Dan the segments are:

28.0 - 28.5 MHz
28.5 - 29.0 MHz
29.0 - 29.5 MHz
29.5 - 30.0 MHz

They are set by 4 little crystals. Sometimes CB ops will
have hacked these out and put something else in there
for the 11m band or worse yet the illegal free band
between 11m and 10m.

On 2 Mar 2006 at 11:33, Dan Wright wrote:


 Greetings!

 I have made the AM mods to my FT-101EX. I bought the AM filter
 from INRAD. I bought the 160 meter and 10 meter crystals
 from JAN. I spent more on that stuff than I did on the radio.. :-|

 I performed the AM window mods (sounds pretty good)
 for both receive and transmit.

 I hope to use the rig primarily on ten meter ayem

 Sooo.the rig divides up the ten meter band into four segments,
 but NOWHERE in my manual does it say WHAT these segments
 are!!! Are they 500Khz? What? Does anyone know? I suppose I could
 wait till I get the crystals and see for myself, but you would think that
 the manual would have the infomaybe mine is missing pages(?).

 Thanks es

 73 de Dan -- WAØJRD ..


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RE: [AMRadio] watt meter

2006-03-02 Thread Donald Chester

The Best measurement I ever got was using a dummy load of know resistive
accuracy.  I used a new Cantenna from heath kit.  I said new because if
over heated once they can change resistance.  The older one seemed to be
better.


I use a dummy load made of a dozen 600-ohm Glo-Bar resistors in parallel.  
The composition material looks like it is tinned at each end, and plugs into 
clips just like a cartridge fuse.   Not exactly sure the power rating of 
each, but they are hollow composition tubes about 1 in diameter and 18 
long.  They were new in the box, dated 1945, apparently WW2 surplus intended 
for use as rhombic antenna terminating resistors.  I can load the 
transmitter up to 1 kw output and run that into the load for 30 minutes or 
more, and although the resistors get very warm, nothing looks like it is 
anywhere near the self-destruct point.  I have the resistors mounted 
vertically to produce a chimney effect for convection cooling without a fan.


When cold, the parallelled resistors measure exactly 50 ohms with my Fluke 
DVM.  But if I run the load hot for a while, the DC resistance changes a few 
ohms (don't remember if it increases or decreases), but the SWR meter still 
reads exactly 1:1.


If I want to measure the power output of a transmitter, I load it into that 
dummy load, measure the rf current with a thermocouple meter, and calculate 
using ohms law.


On the air, none of my feedlines look anything near like 50-ohms 
nonreactive.


On 160m, I use an outboard L-network to make the transmitter see a 50-ohm 
load, since the el-cheapo Gates is designed to work into a very narrow range 
of 50-70 ohms (much like a ricebox), whereas other BC transmitters of the 
same era were rated to work into 30-600 ohms or so.


If you use an outboard L-network, beware of transmitting into it with the 
feedline disconnected.  I did that twice.  Once when the flexible stranded 
copper lead on my T/R relay failed, and once when I forgot to re-engage the 
antenna switch following a thunderstorm.  Each time, I blew up the rf 
ammeter mounted in the transmitter, wired in series with the rf output line. 
 Apparently, just working into the L-network without a proper load on it 
generates ENORMOUS circulating rf current and blows the thermocouple in the 
meter.


I just strapped across the output rf ammeter in the transmitter.  That meter 
needs to go between the last element of the matching network and the 
feedline itself.  It would be nice to be able to read rf power output 
directly using the rf ammeter, but thermcouple meters are too rare and 
expensive to blow up every time the transmitter is accidentally keyed up 
without a load.


The broadcast station where I once worked had a matching network between 
transmitter and tower, and I never remember blowing the rf ammeter.  They 
had a disconnect switch to remove the meter from service when readings were 
not being taken, to avoid lightning jolts wiping out the thermocouple.


Of course, since it was a broadcast station designed to run 24/7,  there was 
no disconnect switch to remove the tower from the output network, nor any 
T/R switch in the line, so the L-network never worked without a proper load.


Don

k4kyv

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Re: [AMRadio] Yaesu FT-101E

2006-03-02 Thread Dan Wright

Bry sez:


Dan the segments are:

28.0 - 28.5 MHz
28.5 - 29.0 MHz
29.0 - 29.5 MHz
29.5 - 30.0 MHz


Thanks! I kinda thought so, but saw no documentation


They are set by 4 little crystals. Sometimes CB ops will
have hacked these out and put something else in there
for the 11m band or worse yet the illegal free band
between 11m and 10m.


Yeahmy manual DOES mention the crystal for 11 meters!!

Thanks a bunch es

73 de Dan -- WAØJRD ..


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[AMRadio] FM transmitter

2006-03-02 Thread Donald Chester




Hope they don't measure the FM broadcast transmitter I have,
so I can listen while doing stuff around the house and yard
with a walkman, its over a watt I think...


What kind of FM transmitter do you use?  I have been looking for something 
so I can use to feed streaming audio from my desktop computer to all the FM 
radios on my property, so I don't have to sit in front of the computer to 
listen.


I ordered one of the little FM stereo xmtrs from C Crane.  It had good 
synthesised frequency stability, but the audio was distorted and it had a 
range of about 35 feet.  I need good solid coverage within a radius of at 
least 100 feet.  I had intended to experiment with an external antenna with 
the thing, but it crapped out before I could do that.  They  refunded my 
money.


I think Ramsey sells kits, but I have heard they are pieces of crap.

Don
k4kyv

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[AMRadio] FS: Small Audio Transformers

2006-03-02 Thread Brian Carling
FOR SALE:

Audio Driver Transformers - 15K to 60K CT.
Suitable for a small modulator up to 15 or 25 watt
class or may be used as an interstage or 
input transformer. Frequency response is
200 Hz - 6000 Hz. 
These are new and they are round, potted type. 
Dimensions approx. 2 tall by 7/8 diameter. 
QTY 8 available for $12.00 each.

ALSO:

Audio Driver Transformer - 50K to 50K CT.
Suitable for a small modulator up to 15 or 
25 watt class or may be used as an interstage 
or input transformer. Frequency response 
200 Hz - 6000 Hz. 
These are new and they are round, potted type. 
Dimensions approx. 2 tall by 7/8 diameter.
QTY 8 available for $12.00 each.

I also have some small 600 ohm to 600 ohm 
transformers available if anyone would like some.

http://www.af4k.com/xfmrs.htm


[AMRadio] FS: Large VU Meters

2006-03-02 Thread Brian Carling
FOR SALE: Large VU Meters.

I have two of these large, really neat 4 VU 
meters 
for sale.   One is an ALTEC and the other has no 
name 
brand, buit looks to be the same size. Four inches 
square 
with rounded corners. 

These are the kind of meters that were used in old 
audio consoles for radio broadcasting, recording 
studios 
etc. 

Available for $24.00 each plus shipping.

Pictures and details at:
http://www.af4k.com/meters.htm


Re: [AMRadio] Yaesu FT-101E

2006-03-02 Thread k0ng

Hey Dan: I am surprised the manual does not list frequency ranges.

Not familiar with the FT-101 but if it has two ranges on 10 meters now,
subtract the difference between the crystal frequencies and you will
likely have the coverage in KHz ?

73 DE Charlie, K0NG  ..



RE: [AMRadio] FM transmitter

2006-03-02 Thread Brett gazdzinski
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/4-Watt-FM-Stereo-Broadcast-Radio-Transmitter-PLL-AGC_W0Q
QitemZ5873268749QQcategoryZ4675QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Edit that to fit the browser.

That is the one I have, its just like a broadcast station, with
a good antenna, the range is very good.
For some reason, mine came with a very large heat sink, maybe the new
models are more efficient.

I have it set up so the transmitter comes on when I power up the shack.
I love old buzzard round tables as I can go make tea, smoke, use the can,
sweep out the garage, etc, all while listening till its my turn.

I made a 1/4 wave dipole out of a PL259 and coat hangers, and stuck it on
my vent pipe on the roof.
I never checked the range, its on 90.4 MHz.
A good antenna would likely get me in trouble.

4 watts and a good antenna would likely go many miles.


The ramsy ones are good for a few hundred feet tops and sound poor.


Brett
N2DTS


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Chester
 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 5:40 PM
 To: amradio@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [AMRadio] FM transmitter
 
 
 
 Hope they don't measure the FM broadcast transmitter I have,
 so I can listen while doing stuff around the house and yard
 with a walkman, its over a watt I think...
 
 What kind of FM transmitter do you use?  I have been looking 
 for something 
 so I can use to feed streaming audio from my desktop computer 
 to all the FM 
 radios on my property, so I don't have to sit in front of the 
 computer to 
 listen.
 
 I ordered one of the little FM stereo xmtrs from C Crane.  It 
 had good 
 synthesised frequency stability, but the audio was distorted 
 and it had a 
 range of about 35 feet.  I need good solid coverage within a 
 radius of at 
 least 100 feet.  I had intended to experiment with an 
 external antenna with 
 the thing, but it crapped out before I could do that.  They  
 refunded my 
 money.
 
 I think Ramsey sells kits, but I have heard they are pieces of crap.
 
 Don
 k4kyv
 
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Re: [AMRadio] FM transmitter

2006-03-02 Thread Phil Galasso

- Original Message - 
 I made a 1/4 wave dipole out of a PL259 and coat hangers, and stuck it on
 my vent pipe on the roof.
 I never checked the range, its on 90.4 MHz.
 A good antenna would likely get me in trouble.

 4 watts and a good antenna would likely go many miles.

That's an excellent way to lose your ham license while courting a $10,000
fine from the FCC for unlicensed operation. Current Part 15 rules permit a
MAXIMUM field strength of 250 microvolts per meter at 3 meters from the
transmitting antenna. If you check the FCC Enforcement Log, available on the
Enforcement Bureau page of the Commission's Web site, you will see numerous
people who got busted for transmitting in the FM broadcast band without a
proper radio station license. A few of these show up every week. If the
bootlegger is a college kid or a preacher who puts an unlicensed station on
the air as a hobby or to broadcast his church services, he may get away with
a warning not to do it again. Since you are a ham, and, therefore, licensed
by the FCC, you would lose your license and be hit with a heavy fine. Your
radio equipment could also be confiscated. In Florida, you would also face
state charges, as the Sunshine State passed a law a couple of years ago that
makes unlicensed operation in the broadcast bands a felony.

BTW, the FCC just levied a massive fine against Ramsey Electronics for
marketing export only FM broadcast transmitters that did not have FCC type
acceptance for regular broadcast use.

The bottom line is, such equipment is illegal. And the FCC is vigorously
enforcing the rules that apply to the AM and FM broadcast bands.

If you want to hear your AM roundtable while you are called away to the
telephone or using the bathroom, get a good speaker, attach it to your
receiver, and turn up the volume.

Phil K2PG




Re: [AMRadio] FM transmitter

2006-03-02 Thread Brian Carling
Moral of the story is this:
Keep your eyes peeled for the Cat Detector Van.

http://mzonline.com/bin/view/Python/FishLicenseSketch

(This actually refers to the British licensing of radio and TV 
receivers. Both require a license and they actually go around 
in vans to ctach and punish persons listening without a license!)

On 2 Mar 2006 at 19:54, Phil Galasso wrote:
 
 - Original Message - 
  I made a 1/4 wave dipole out of a PL259 and coat hangers, and stuck it on
  my vent pipe on the roof.
  I never checked the range, its on 90.4 MHz.
  A good antenna would likely get me in trouble.
 
  4 watts and a good antenna would likely go many miles.
 
 That's an excellent way to lose your ham license while courting a $10,000
 fine from the FCC for unlicensed operation. Current Part 15 rules permit a
 MAXIMUM field strength of 250 microvolts per meter at 3 meters from the
 transmitting antenna. If you check the FCC Enforcement Log, available on the
 Enforcement Bureau page of the Commission's Web site, you will see numerous
 people who got busted for transmitting in the FM broadcast band without a
 proper radio station license. A few of these show up every week. If the
 bootlegger is a college kid or a preacher who puts an unlicensed station on
 the air as a hobby or to broadcast his church services, he may get away with
 a warning not to do it again. Since you are a ham, and, therefore, licensed
 by the FCC, you would lose your license and be hit with a heavy fine. Your
 radio equipment could also be confiscated. In Florida, you would also face
 state charges, as the Sunshine State passed a law a couple of years ago that
 makes unlicensed operation in the broadcast bands a felony.
 
 BTW, the FCC just levied a massive fine against Ramsey Electronics for
 marketing export only FM broadcast transmitters that did not have FCC type
 acceptance for regular broadcast use.
 
 The bottom line is, such equipment is illegal. And the FCC is vigorously
 enforcing the rules that apply to the AM and FM broadcast bands.
 
 If you want to hear your AM roundtable while you are called away to the
 telephone or using the bathroom, get a good speaker, attach it to your
 receiver, and turn up the volume.
 
 Phil K2PG
 
 
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RE: [AMRadio] FM transmitter

2006-03-02 Thread WA9VRH
Yet another choice is the 900 mhz cordless head phones. I remoted the 
transmitter in my attic and fed the audio up to it via shielded wire. 

I increased my range enough to cover most of my yard while mowing and it 
isn't a small yard. The other choice was to remote the transmitter t the 
top of the tower and see what it does. Since the transmitter has not had 
it's antenna changed and it is just higher off the ground I doubt there s 
an issue with the FCC.

73 Larry WA9VRH


On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:02:29 -0500, Gary Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote :

 
 
  
  If you want to hear your AM roundtable while you are called away to the
  telephone or using the bathroom, get a good speaker, attach it to your
  receiver, and turn up the volume.
  
 
 An old cordless phone would do the trick.
 
 73
 Gary  K4FMX
 
 
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RE: [AMRadio] FM transmitter

2006-03-02 Thread Brett gazdzinski
Well, I don't broadcast anything, I doubt the range is very good,
I don't think anyone would complain about it being on an open frequency,
and its only on when I operate, so I wont loose any sleep over it.


I should check the range though, the lower power ones did not 
make it past my yard, and did not work very well in the yard 

The one I have may be 1 watt, they sold many different ones in the past,
and I don't remember what one I got. I think its got a power adjustment,
its all software controlled...
If the range is greater then the yard, I can turn it down I guess.

I tried the wireless headphones, they did not work worth a crap,
they are good for a room, not much else.

Brett



  

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Galasso
 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:55 PM
 To: Discussion of AM Radio
 Subject: Re: [AMRadio] FM transmitter
 
 
 - Original Message - 
  I made a 1/4 wave dipole out of a PL259 and coat hangers, 
 and stuck it on
  my vent pipe on the roof.
  I never checked the range, its on 90.4 MHz.
  A good antenna would likely get me in trouble.
 
  4 watts and a good antenna would likely go many miles.
 
 That's an excellent way to lose your ham license while 
 courting a $10,000
 fine from the FCC for unlicensed operation. Current Part 15 
 rules permit a
 MAXIMUM field strength of 250 microvolts per meter at 3 
 meters from the
 transmitting antenna. If you check the FCC Enforcement Log, 
 available on the
 Enforcement Bureau page of the Commission's Web site, you 
 will see numerous
 people who got busted for transmitting in the FM broadcast 
 band without a
 proper radio station license. A few of these show up every 
 week. If the
 bootlegger is a college kid or a preacher who puts an 
 unlicensed station on
 the air as a hobby or to broadcast his church services, he 
 may get away with
 a warning not to do it again. Since you are a ham, and, 
 therefore, licensed
 by the FCC, you would lose your license and be hit with a 
 heavy fine. Your
 radio equipment could also be confiscated. In Florida, you 
 would also face
 state charges, as the Sunshine State passed a law a couple of 
 years ago that
 makes unlicensed operation in the broadcast bands a felony.
 
 BTW, the FCC just levied a massive fine against Ramsey Electronics for
 marketing export only FM broadcast transmitters that did 
 not have FCC type
 acceptance for regular broadcast use.
 
 The bottom line is, such equipment is illegal. And the FCC is 
 vigorously
 enforcing the rules that apply to the AM and FM broadcast bands.
 
 If you want to hear your AM roundtable while you are called 
 away to the
 telephone or using the bathroom, get a good speaker, attach it to your
 receiver, and turn up the volume.
 
 Phil K2PG
 
 
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[AMRadio] Fw: Re: tubes

2006-03-02 Thread Edward B Richards
Below are listed the remainig tubes with prices. These were obtained from
a local college that declared them sulplus/obsolete. They are all NOS in
original factory boxes. SH is additional for less than 10 tubes; figure
$3. Buy 10 or more tubes and shipping is free. 

TYPE   NO $  EA.

0A2 181.60
0A3   2 2.00
0B2  141.90
12AX7   13.30
12BY7A 1   4.00
12CR6 2  2.00
1A7GT11.00
1J3  92.50
1R522.20
1U431.80
1X2B20.80
2AS2101.50
2D2111.00
3A3C43.00
3BC551.50
3CE5/3BC5  51.50
3DG452.00
3V442.80
4CB611.50
5654/6AK5W  11.30
5U4GB25.20
5V4GA24.20
6AB451.70
6AH4GT144.80
6AH611.10
6AK5/EF95  111.40
6AK5W/5654  31.30
6AK611.30
6AKB42   offer
6AL5361.10
6AM841.80
6AM8A381.80
6AN8A102.30
6AQ5201.90
6AQ5A21.90
6AQ5A/6HG5 41.90
6AQ6230.90
6AS43offer
6AS540.60
6AS630.60
6AS7GA12.60
6AS820.60
6AU6A191.80
6AU871.60
6AU8A61.60
6AV6591.30
6AW8A121.50
6AX4GTB70.60
6AX5GT161.50
6BA671.70
6BC550.60
6BC722.50
6BE681.70
6BF5151.20
6BH8201.60
6BJ671.20
6BJ730.80
6BK4C/6EL4A 114.20
6BK550.60
6BK7B31.50
6BL7GTA93.00
6BL8/ECF80 111.80
6BN412.00
6BN4A52.00
6BN651.30
6BN6/6KS6131.30
6BQ6GTB/6CU6 150.50
6BQ7A10.50
6BQ7A/6BZ7   1 0.50
6BQ7A/6BZ7/6BS85 0.50
6BU8190.60
6BW431.20
6BX7GT24.20
6BY6201.30
6BY850.90
6BZ750.50
6C491.80
6C4A31.80
6CB6A21.10
6CD6GA31.90
6CF631.10
6CG311.90
6CG8A100.75
6CL342.00
6CL3/6CK3  12.50
6CM7110.80
6CQ820.90
6CS6201.30
6CS711.30
6CU530.60
6CW5/EL86 31.50
6CY7141.10
6CZ543.00
6D4A13.00
6D4A/6DM4A  30.80
6DA444.00
6DA4A/6DM4A  80.80
6DE411.50
6DE6110.60
6DQ6B12.30
6DR731.70
6DS426.00
6DS571.50
6DT630.90
6EB861.20
6EH7/EF183  30.90
6EJ710.40
6EJ7/EF184  30.40
6EU727.60
6EW6101.70
6EW81offer
6F551.90
6FM7352.50
6FQ7/6CG7  24.20
6FY5153.00
6GE5143.10
6GJ762.00
6GK552.10
6GK5/6F5A  12.10
6GK5/6FQ5A32.10
6GN831.60
6H611.00
6HE5103.00
6HL65offer
6HS855.40
6HZ640.90
6J522.00
6J670.90
6J6A50.90
6J741.80
6JT852.00
6K6GT11.90
6N741.80
6S4A31.40
6SM75   offer
6SR7142.50
6V6GT16.70
6W4GT300.60
EL9542.00
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