[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for a Portuguese Teacher
Hi Nicole, When I started my Portuguese studies in it was with a Brazilian who teaches Portuguese here at NYU and I was able to make the transition from Brazilian to Iberian Portuguese without much difficulty for my first visit to the Azores and the mainland (although people often asked me if I was Brazilian). One of the major distinctions between the two (aside from idioms) is pronunciation and the use or non-use of the verb conjugation in tu or voce. In Brazil tu is not used - everyone is voce but in Portugal and the Azores it's more complicated and I never fully understood the nuances in usage of tu vs. voce. I've been told that sometimes siblings from the upper classes will use voce when talking to each other. And then there's the pronunciation and it's much easier to understand Brazilian than Iberian portuguese because in the latter a lot of the vowels are swallowed and syllables elided. For example, the city of Setubal looks fairly easy to pronounce but my Portuguese friends say something like shtubal. That said, I still think if you can only begin studying the language with a Brazilian teacher that's okay. You may want to look into the Classical University in Lisbon. They may still offer a 1 month summer program for estrangeiros to learn the language, history, culture of Portugal at beginning, intermediate and advanced levels. I studied there in 1996 and learned so much it was fantastic! I was pretty much the oldest student because most are young adults of portuguese extraction whose parents left Portugal and settled primarily in France, Germany or the UK. I have the information about this program at home and will look it up tonight and forward it to you if you're interested. There is also a summer program offered by the University of Massachusetts/Dartmouth here's the link: http://www.portstudies.umassd.edu/summer/summer.htm Now that might be something you'd like because you would be near New Bedford and Fall River and the FHC is located in South Dartmouth and they have all the films for the Azores! Mary Ann On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:28 PM, Nicole Rodriques wrote: This is not just to sate my appetite, but also because I want to go to the Azores someday and would like to speak the language. I've been trying to learn Portuguese for years, but bookstores only carry resources to learn the Brazilian Dialect (This includes the Rosetta Stone software I see in commercials all the time). I looked at the catalogs for every college in Florida I could think of, those that teach Portuguese, all teach the Brazilian dialect. I know the dialects are different enough I should try to learn the European variety. So I found a website online that lists teachers of all sorts of different languages and found some that taught purely onlineI found a man in Texas, but he said that since I was more interested in the archipelagos, they have their own dialect and I'd be better off trying to find someone who speaks that dialect if possible! (this was news to me). So, does anyone here teach Portuguese or know a Portuguese teacher or at the very least the name of books that teach something other than Brazilian? I'm a product of a family that strongly believed in totally americanizing. Portuguese was only spoken to other speakers, and never when someone who didn't understand it was around. My grandparents knew it because their parents didn't know english so well, but the next generation wasn't taught at all and so on. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for a Portuguese Teacher
Nicole - My Grandmother purchased Maria Oliveira's book and tapes (back then that's all they had). It was very helpful. Now, she offers online courses and CD's. From personal experience, I had been practicing with the tapes before our trip then everything came in the place once I arrive in the azores in regards to speaking the language. Since the only place for me to personally hear people speak Portuguese was our local festa. Everyone else in our prior generations who spoke the language fluently have passed on. Good luck, Robin Borba Besotes http://www.learn-to-speak-portuguese.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for a Portuguese Teacher
Where in the Azores do these Immersion classes take place? Nancy Jean Baptiste From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:58:30 -0400Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for a Portuguese TeacherTo: Azores@googlegroups.com Maria Oliveira also has Immersion Classes that take place for 3 weeks in Acores. -Trevor Costa In a message dated 9/18/2008 12:09:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nicole -My Grandmother purchased Maria Oliveira's book and tapes (back then that's all they had). It was very helpful. Now, she offers online courses and CD's.From personal experience, I had been practicing with the tapes before our trip then everything came in the place once I arrive in the azores in regards to speaking the language. Since the only place for me to personally hear people speak Portuguese was our local festa. Everyone else in our prior generations who spoke the language fluently have passed on.Good luck, Robin Borba Besoteshttp://www.learn-to-speak-portuguese.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? Pt...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com._ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Eduardo, Fajanzinha, Flores
Denise, I forwarded your e-mail to my niece Ines (Pimentel) Carreiro (married to my wife's nephew) to see if she might know someone from your list. She was born in Fajazinha. Jose Valadao Eduardo (birth date 1930s) is married to her cousin Palmira Ventura Avelar. Jose Gabriel Eduardo is a nephew to Jose. Ines also has a cousin,Fatima, married to a Joao Resendes who reside in Mass. Joao and Jose are cousins. Ines feels she knows some of the other Eduardos but can't remember all the details. Al Goularte --- On Thu, 9/4/08, DEdwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: DEdwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Eduardo, Fajanzinha, Flores To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 7:58 PM Hi, I am new to this group and was hoping for help in my research of the Eduardo Family from Fajazinha, Flores. I have found several message boards and find no one researching the Eduardo name (from the Azores). I have found my grandfather and his brother on passenger lists with the Eduardo name (Ancestry.com), but that's about it. I have a list from my father with the following: Jose Valadao Eduardo 1/1870 - 1/23/35 spouse: Maria Jose Corvelo Valadao 8/1882 - 7/21/59 Childen: Maria Valadao Eduardo 6/29/1901 - 7/1979...spouse: Manuel Marian Henriques Jose Valadao Eduardo 6/25/1903 -12/2/1969spouse: Alice Madeline Henriques Roberto Valadao Eduardo 12/29/1904 - 8/1967..spouse: Sorita Mitrea Julia Valadao Eduardo 3/02/1907 - .spouse:Antonio Silveria Palmira Valadao Eduardo 9/7/1908 - 1990spouse Jesuino Lourenco Avelar Filomena Valadao Eduardo 3/23/1910-11 - 8/82spouse Joao Resendes Francisco Valadao Eduardo 4/28/1911 - 6/7/1948..spouse: Maria Rodriques Henriques Antonio Valadao Eduardo 6/16/1912 - 9/8/1962.spouse: Lina Augusto Joao Valadao Eduardo 8/19/1913 - 9/3/1956.spouse: Olivia Jacinto Resendes Deolinda Valadao Eduardo Eduino Valadao Eduardo Teresa Valadao Eduardo Pedro Valadao Eduardo Does this look familiar to anyone? Sincerely, Denise Edwards Mayes (gr: Roberto V Eduardo) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Barnacle Love by Anthony De Sa
I tried getting it in the US as well, but had no luck. I ordered it from Indigo and had it shipped no porblem to Bermuda. I read it in 2 nights- such a great book. I have passed it onto my brother and he has associated with it as well. I really, really connected to this book, being a daughter of Azorean immigrants. Hope you get it, it is well worth the money. Susana On Sep 17, 12:42 pm, Maria Sousa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susana, Thank you so much for sharing. I did a check on Barnacle Love and see that it originates in Lomba da Maia (where my husband was born). I am so excited I have to get the book. Barnes Noble is carrying it in the U.S. I just happen to have finished reading Emigrantes by Ferreira do Castro. It is about a man leaving his village in mainland Portugal and emigrating to Brazil to make some money, but it doesn't work out as he expects. It was a great story. Maria Sousa --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Susana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Susana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Barnacle Love by Anthony De Sa To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 10:02 PM This is a great book! I ordered it on line from INDIGO (Canadian bookstore). What a moving story about an Azorean family and growing up in Canada. Speaking of traditions In the book the traditional making of the bed before the wedding night is mentioned. Is this traditonal for all Azorean brides to be? Something to think about and share... Susana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for a Portuguese Teacher
Nancy: The classes are held at the Escola Profissional das Velas. Afternoons and weekends are reserved for sightseeing, tours of the Island of São Jorge, visits to Pico, Faial, and Terceira. _http://www.study-portuguese-abroad.com/trip-details.html_ (http://www.study-portuguese-abroad.com/trip-details.html) -Trevor In a message dated 9/18/2008 1:30:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where in the Azores do these Immersion classes take place? Nancy Jean Baptiste From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:58:30 -0400 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for a Portuguese Teacher To: Azores@googlegroups.com Maria Oliveira also has Immersion Classes that take place for 3 weeks in Acores. -Trevor Costa In a message dated 9/18/2008 12:09:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nicole - My Grandmother purchased Maria Oliveira's book and tapes (back then that's all they had). It was very helpful. Now, she offers online courses and CD's. From personal experience, I had been practicing with the tapes before our trip then everything came in the place once I arrive in the azores in regards to speaking the language. Since the only place for me to personally hear people speak Portuguese was our local festa. Everyone else in our prior generations who spoke the language fluently have passed on. Good luck, Robin Borba Besotes http://www.learn-to-speak-portuguese.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? Pt...Have you heard the news? _There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com_ (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty000514) . **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Barnacle Love by Anthony De Sa
Susana, I have ordered the book from Amazon.com and should have it on September 24th. I ordered it this morning. I have notified my husband's cousin in Toronto about the book and she too is ordering a copy. Her parents immigrated from Lomba da Maia, Sao MIguel to Toronto Canada. They should be able to relate to the book. We plan on reading the book and then sharing notes. It would be great if our parents knew who the authors parents are. Thanks again. Maria Sousa --- On Thu, 9/18/08, Susana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Susana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Barnacle Love by Anthony De Sa To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 6:58 PM I tried getting it in the US as well, but had no luck. I ordered it from Indigo and had it shipped no porblem to Bermuda. I read it in 2 nights- such a great book. I have passed it onto my brother and he has associated with it as well. I really, really connected to this book, being a daughter of Azorean immigrants. Hope you get it, it is well worth the money. Susana On Sep 17, 12:42 pm, Maria Sousa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susana, Thank you so much for sharing. I did a check on Barnacle Love and see that it originates in Lomba da Maia (where my husband was born). I am so excited I have to get the book. Barnes Noble is carrying it in the U.S. I just happen to have finished reading Emigrantes by Ferreira do Castro. It is about a man leaving his village in mainland Portugal and emigrating to Brazil to make some money, but it doesn't work out as he expects. It was a great story. Maria Sousa --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Susana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Susana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Barnacle Love by Anthony De Sa To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 10:02 PM This is a great book! I ordered it on line from INDIGO (Canadian bookstore). What a moving story about an Azorean family and growing up in Canada. Speaking of traditions In the book the traditional making of the bed before the wedding night is mentioned. Is this traditonal for all Azorean brides to be? Something to think about and share... Susana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
